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"Years ago" or "months ago"?

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So Gross apparently came out and said that the school self-reported possible violations "years ago."
ESPN has now added a snippet to it's scroll saying that the NCAA has confirmed SU self-reported the possible violations months ago.
Raises some more questions.
 
Meh - there's a question as to whether Gross was talking about when the violations may have taken place or when the self-reporting took place.
 
I have been trying to figure out SU's presser since it came out. Something didn't add up. If we self reported years ago, as SU said, why are we just now getting an inquiry from the NCAA per SU also. Either it was recently self reported or there is more going on with the NCAA and this is just a piece of it. I know the NCAA is slow, but they wouldn't wait 8-10 years. Also begs the question why we would self report something in the past year that happened 10 years ago.
 
I feel much better if this was reported pre Bernie.
 
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FYI. Daryl Gross said in Post Standard SU self-reported drug policy issues "years ago". NCAA statement said it was "months ago"

Apparently, NCAA corrected statement to "more than a year ago.". So there you go.
 
I have been trying to figure out SU's presser since it came out. Something didn't add up. If we self reported years ago, as SU said, why are we just now getting an inquiry from the NCAA per SU also. Either it was recently self reported or there is more going on with the NCAA and this is just a piece of it. I know the NCAA is slow, but they wouldn't wait 8-10 years. Also begs the question why we would self report something in the past year that happened 10 years ago.

This is what I'm most curious about. Whether it was months ago or two years ago, why self-report something that happened 8-10 months prior? How did it suddenly come up?
 
This is what I'm most curious about. Whether it was months ago or two years ago, why self-report something that happened 8-10 months prior? How did it suddenly come up?

If we were 17-14 I'm not sure it would've ever come up.
 
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-reports-possible-drug-policy-violations-ncaa

2nd paragraph here says "The NCAA told ESPN.com's Dana O'Neil that Syracuse had self-reported the potential violations more than a year ago."

Yes, thank you. Saved me the trouble.

The sequence of this is interesting: By the time the Yacuse article was published, they had checked with the NCAA to verify SU's claim that it had self-reported. According to the article, the NCAA denied comment "Monday" (yesterday).

Thereafter, the NCAA issued a statement saying that SU had self-reported "months ago". But when pressed later (by ESPN) to clarify how long a period this was, the spokesperson backtracked and said, "more than a year ago".

Again, my sense is, mistakes might have been made. It's certainly plausible that either JB or Jake was unaware of a positive test and allowed a player to play in a game, or that something was overlooked in the murky areas of "clearance" by a counselor, an AD waiver, etc... For all we (or Yacuse) know (knows), a test could have been sitting on JB's (or Jake's) desk .. while SU was at an away game. But after 36 years, I feel like I know JB pretty well... it seems highly unlikely to me that he would try to cover anything up. Avoiding this is exactly what SU's self-reporting was about.

And it also should not be forgotten that this is a voluntary policy. SU is bound to enforce it, and the enforcement can be overseen by the NCAA. Should we have a policy? I say yes, but what it says and how it's implemented will probably be re-visited. Suspension, as just one example, should be discretionary not mandatory, so that if a positive test comes out on a Phase 2 or Phase 3 player, the University has time to deal with it and decide what to do without worrying about immediate eligibility issues.
 

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