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[QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 2370791, member: 668"]
I've been around since the 70's...I'm aware we don't get 5* guys, not many 4* either for that matter.  Regardless of age, rationale, etc., the best players start and find themselves on the field...[I]period! [/I] Bottom line is a lot of the key position guys are Shafer's.  If Strickland is so bad, as you allude, and Dino having gone through 2 recruiting classes, what does that say about those two classes at that position?  I don't think Strickland is bad, I see him running, fighting hard for extra yards, solid at catching the ball out of the backfield, etc.  I do think it's our offensive line you mention that's so poor, especially with run blocking.

Again, I think Baber's is a much better coach than Shafer and is getting the most out of the young men.  Coaching to me is more of the reason why SU has been much more competitive in games (vs. poor Shafer recruiting/talent) even with the disappointing defeats.

FSU is loaded with all these 4* & 5* guys, but it's up to the head coach & his coaches to get their kids to play at the highest level that their capabilities allow.  The BC debacle/embarrassment for FSU was 100% on the coaches as clearly FSU players and their demeanor suggested they weren't interested in competing/mentally focused.  Baber's (other than that MTSU snafu) again, seemingly, gets the kids to play to their fullest capabilities...which is all you can ask.
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