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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 92315, member: 225"] Technically speaking, the D is the only squad that can lose a game...if they give up no points then the worst outcome is a draw. That philosophical scenario aside, it's pretty equal between O and D in terms of effect on outcome. We won 10 games with RJ Anderson at QB simply because we had some guy named Freeney dominating the game on defense. In today's case, all but one Cincy scoring drive started in their own territory, plus we allowed them to march from their own 19 to our 15 before missing a FG. I'm not saying that the O and specials have not been bad. I just think that the D has been lousy too and it is not being discussed as much, or excuses keep being made for it. [/QUOTE]