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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 4181191, member: 716"] Hey, it takes stones to say it. I wouldn't go quite so far, but good for you for throwing it out there. I will say that whenever this topic comes up I scratch my head, because it's great to share kind thoughts, but there is a fair bit to dislike about this team. From my perspective, I don't mean to unfairly disparage the guy or single him out, but what does Joe Girard do [I][U]on[/U][/I] the court that really separates him from Deshaun Williams? Basketball can be a beautiful game. We've seen a lot of that from hundreds of SU players and dozens of teams. This group, not so much. It's not a question of effort or character. Just a lot of skills and traits that don't mesh with what's needed for good basketball. [/QUOTE]