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Message: [QUOTE="SUFan44, post: 2975240, member: 39"] And guys like we have now get you nowhere. I think I agree with the majority of this. The problems I have with the program isn't the style of play, necessarily. Though the offense is pretty horrendous these days. But a lot of that horrendousness (not a word) is due to players not being good enough or not getting better. Battle, Brissett, Dolezaj, Hughes... they've all shown signs they're good enough. But they aren't consistent and aren't getting better at deficiencies. I also don't agree with all the metrics saying we're still a very good program. We aren't. We haven't been for a full recruiting cycle. Whether through sanctions or whatever it is, we just aren't. We are slightly above average and slipping. [/QUOTE]