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Message: [QUOTE="SoBeCuse, post: 2063673, member: 796"] I've lost track of this whole thread. I frankly don't see anyone trying to "lessen the value" of the wins or diminish. I think it is fair to point out that in the Florida St. game the defense was non-existent in the first 8-10 minutes of the 2H. The game became a game as quickly as it hit NC St. the other day. We were desperately holding on and made some free throws and some great plays at the end. It is fair to point out that Isaac having to go out frequently was important. It's fair to point out that Florida St. had some athletic but unskilled guys in the paint who couldn't finish. Their PG has not been able to contain anybody. Yes, of course it was a great win for us but I think it is reasonable to say that FSU isn't a very elite team nor is Virginia. The likelihood of either making the F4 or staying a Top 10 team in the polls is highly unlikely, IMO. Virginia is clearly missing guys like Gill, Brogdon, and Toby. They are very good and very well coached but I don't see many difference makers on that team. Again, this is NOT diminishing our W. To come back like we did against a slow paced and fundamentally sound team like UVA was impressive. Our defense had way more to do with the UVA win than FSU, I think. We still have work to do to make the Tourney, incidentally. I think it is fair to ponder if he has been mailing it in with recruiting the past few years. Francis and others have documented our struggles even pre-sanctions with pieces not fitting, recruiting misses, and such. If Final 4s really matter to recruits why aren't players lining up in droves to come here. It's fair to argue that we generally have had very mediocre bodies of work as a whole the past 3-4 years. The zone is the reason we got to F4s. Not the offense for sure. That's great. Very few, if any, ELITE recruits want to play zone 100%! That's pretty telling I think if a program gets to a F4s based on a style of D yet it is the one of the big reasons and deterrents for a program not getting the top recruits. It's fair to ponder, in terms of the game passing JB by, why he won't ever try other defenses. As far as in game coaching and passion for the game I have never thought he mailed it in. Maybe in a couple of blowouts but what's the guy supposed to do when the team gives up. Anyone can tell even from a single presser his passion and knowledge of the game. Can we question some concepts? Of course we can. I personally thought last year was the best coaching job I have ever seen from JB. If we make the Tourney then it will even trump last year which would be truly incredible. But, personally, I want the Hopkins era to start ASAP and I'm not any less of a fan than you, sir. [/QUOTE]

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