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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 2065389, member: 474"] I think kansas has been real good,, but its also helped that at hardly any point in the last 10 years has there been more than 1-2 really good teams that could compete with them so that they almost always have a solid record and a great seeding.. Few teams survive the initial seeding to get to the final four and the stats show that. if you ran a computer program that swapped the seeds so that a 15 became a 2 seed, i think it would show even a 15 seed got to the final four 2-3x as often as it would as a 15 seed. its a self rewarding prophecy.. but you need to play well to get the seed too. [/QUOTE]