Cole Swider Transferring from Nova to Syracuse

[two3zone]

Hes also using one of the more extreme examples. Pretty much everyone thought Joseph was going to be a solid player. Almost everyone was wrong. I get the point hes trying to make but it just doesn't really fit this situation. And everything about Joseph was playing against highschool competition...we have quite a bit of video evidence of the 2 players we are discussing playing against high major D1 athletes.

I can give you a thousand other examples, the point remains that mix tapes are literally useless.

 

[two3zone]

Lol he’s not playing shooting guard.

I’ll bet you play as many minutes there as he does.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

All I know is when Swider's on the floor we're going to have so much spacing the suez canal boat could make it through.

 

[721Comstock]

All I know is when Swider's on the floor we're going to have so much spacing the suez canal boat could make it through.

Sadly, the same may be true on D also.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Sadly, the same may be true on D also.

...

Yeah.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I’ll bet you play as many minutes there as he does.

When Buddy plays PG, Cole will slide up top

 

[Jasoncuse]

It would take 12 blowouts where Buddy sits the last 5 minutes to even sniff the under.

I can’t imagine Swider plays the 2 unless it’s an emergency but I hope the staff telling him that isn’t an indication that we aren’t looking to bring in a 4th guard.

Luckily we don’t need a SG as much as a PG. Hopefully they still look to add a PG.

 

[Orangezoo]

Here’s a college one. Point is these things show the best of the best of a player and if you’re not looking for the right things, useless.

The premise of this argument you guys are having aside- watching Cole quite a bit the last 3 years, the highlight tape isn't lying in terms of his game. It doesn't show the weaker areas of his game but those have been called out. He won't be Matt Gorman with all due respect to Matt.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Kid's need to know their HC believes in them and their abilities.
JB sometimes has an odd way of transmitting that to certain players, but its so much more important in this transfer portal era. Kids now have a get out of jail free card, so you have to account for their sensitivities when, ahem "molding" them.

 

[doc05]

Here’s a college one. Point is these things show the best of the best of a player and if you’re not looking for the right things, useless.

I could be wrong -- I just always thought he had the talent, but just lacked the confidence and the issues were largely between the ears here.

 

[Consigliere]

yes

Actually, no. The blanket waiver has not been passed yet. The common assumption is that it will be, but nothing official. And we all know the NCAA is a model of logical consistency...

 

[Orangezoo]

Actually, no. The blanket waiver has not been passed yet. The common assumption is that it will be, but nothing official. And we all know the NCAA is a model of logical consistency...

Can you only imagine if they don't pass it?

 

[Niastri]

Not sure how much competitive ball you’ve played but that dump off to Marek was our best offense because it meant we were basically 4 on 3 (only reason I say it is our sectionals team in NY, our SG was our best player and we had our best passer screen them because we did that dump each other and it opened alot of stuff up). Marek usually made the right play minus not shooting the damn long ball.

If it’s like tyler london screening, I’m all for it but Tyler had more ball skills then Cole where if they jumped the quick pass, he could drive by. I havent seen that with Swider but a highlight video said otherwise

Dolezaj getting that pass out there meant they could sag off him and fill passing/driving lanes... They dared him to shoot and he never did.

If they try the same tactic with Swider, ring him up for 30.

Let's assume we go Girard, Boeheim, Williams, Swider, Edwards as our primary lineup. That leaves us with two very good to great shooters and two very effective ones. And everybody is running around screening off our seven foot center getting open looks.

And all four guys have pump and drive in their games as well. I especially like Swider with the side step and pop.

He really is like Buddy, but three inches taller, a step slower and 30lbs heavier.

If I knew we could get a bigger version of Buddy this off-season two weeks ago, I would have been stoked.

 

[two3zone]

Dolezaj getting that pass out there meant they could sag off him and fill passing/driving lanes... They dared him to shoot and he never did.

If they try the same tactic with Swider, ring him up for 30.

Let's assume we go Girard, Boeheim, Williams, Swider, Edwards as our primary lineup. That leaves us with two very good to great shooters and two very effective ones. And everybody is running around screening off our seven foot center getting open looks.

And all four guys have pump and drive in their games as well. I especially like Swider with the side step and pop.

He really is like Buddy, but three inches taller, a step slower and 30lbs heavier.

If I knew we could get a bigger version of Buddy this off-season two weeks ago, I would have been stoked.

If he was a bigger version of Buddy he’d be in the NBA not transferring after not playing for two years.

 

[MSOrange]

If he was a bigger version of Buddy he’d be in the NBA not transferring after not playing for two years.

I agree with your first part, but let's not act like he didn't play. He played in every game and averaged 19 minutes a game.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Can you only imagine if they don't pass it?

Though I realize it would be very bad for us...

I would love it if they make everyone sit for a year.

Would be hilarious.

 

[Orangezoo]

Though I realize it would be very bad for us...

I would love it if they make everyone sit for a year.

Would be hilarious.

It would be year of the walk on.

 

[OrangeDW]

It would be year of the walk on.

Chaz!!!

 

[Niastri]

If he was a bigger version of Buddy he’d be in the NBA not transferring after not playing for two years.

Buddy is a good offensive player, but you put him in Villanova's pressure defense, and he might be unplayable too.

Offensively, he looks a lot like Buddy.

 

[Orangezoo]

If he was a bigger version of Buddy he’d be in the NBA not transferring after not playing for two years.

Eh- I don't know. There aren't very many " bigger versions of Buddy" in the NBA right now.

 

[OrangeDW]

Eh- I don't know. There aren't very many " bigger versions of Buddy" in the NBA right now.

Duncan Robinson?!

 

[Orangezoo]

Duncan Robinson?!

Maybe but Robinson is much more athletic.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Dolezaj getting that pass out there meant they could sag off him and fill passing/driving lanes... They dared him to shoot and he never did.

If they try the same tactic with Swider, ring him up for 30.

Let's assume we go Girard, Boeheim, Williams, Swider, Edwards as our primary lineup. That leaves us with two very good to great shooters and two very effective ones. And everybody is running around screening off our seven foot center getting open looks.

And all four guys have pump and drive in their games as well. I especially like Swider with the side step and pop.

He really is like Buddy, but three inches taller, a step slower and 30lbs heavier.

If I knew we could get a bigger version of Buddy this off-season two weeks ago, I would have been stoked.

Who are the very effective ones?

 

[OrangeDW]

Who are the very effective ones?

I’m guessing joe.

Not sure who the other is. Can Benny shoot? I’m sure he can play, not sure what the expectation is for him from an outside shooting standpoint though.