Hunt > Nassib

[Trueblue25]

Even Jerome Smith would say pump the brakes with that one.

IF he stayed his senior season I see no reason why he couldn't rush for 20 touchdowns and over 1300 yards. Especially with the increasing potency the passing game will gain in the 14-15 season with Custis, Williams, Cooper etc. coming in alongside Terrel Hunt.

 

[bnoro]

The offenses of the Bills and Jets aren't exactly two of the more powerful in the league (being kind). How do you know that their defense is any good?

They played against two rookie QBs. One playing in his first game in the NFL ever, one in his second. And nearly lost to both. Color me unimpressed.

almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes my friend. a division win is a division win.

 

[NineOneSeven]

But the Pats actually have a good defense now. This team isn't dissimilar to the 2001 team, they'll be stronger offensively than that team when Gronk and Amendola get back.

Thanks for the laugh!


I hope they do get better, Ridley is killing my fantasy team right now.

 

[bnoro]

Thanks for the laugh!


I hope they do get better, Ridley is killing my fantasy team right now.

you screwed up one of the easiest rules in fantasy, never take a patriots running back (especially one that can't hold on to the football)

 

[KaiserUEO]

The offenses of the Bills and Jets aren't exactly two of the more powerful in the league (being kind). How do you know that their defense is any good?

They played against two rookie QBs. One playing in his first game in the NFL ever, one in his second. And nearly lost to both. Color me unimpressed.

And yet this whole thread is based on the premises that a rookie QB, whos only real action has come v a high school team...is now better than the statistically greatest QB in school history.

Can't wait till that Heismann ceremony...
:bang::bang:

:rolling:

Oh Lord

 

[Millhouse]

And yet this whole thread is based on the premises that a rookie QB, whos only real action has come v a high school team...is now better than the statistically greatest QB in school history.

Can't wait till that Heismann ceremony...
:bang::bang:

:rolling:

Oh Lord

i guess qb rating isn't a statistic

 

[Millhouse]

i guess qb rating isn't a statistic

mcnabb 154 then graves 142 then mcpherson 139 then nassib 132

 

[rrlbees]

mcnabb 154 then graves 142 then mcpherson 139 then nassib 132

Where is Nunes?


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[Millhouse]

Where is Nunes?

Who?

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[NineOneSeven]

you screwed up one of the easiest rules in fantasy, never take a patriots running back (especially one that can't hold on to the football)

Yeah, definitely should pass on the guy who had 1200 yards and double digit TD's.

 

[KaiserUEO]

i guess qb rating isn't a statistic

Details...

 

[Millhouse]

Details...

mcnabb 154
mcdonald 153
scharr 150
philcox 144
graves 142
mcpherson 139
paulus 133
nassib 132
mason 132
nunes 128
williams 117
anderson 114
patterson 108
dantley 106

not exhaustive, i just looked up whoever came to mind

 

[RF2044]

i guess qb rating isn't a statistic

It's one statistic. Not the only one.

 

[rrlbees]

mcnabb 154
mcdonald 153
scharr 150
philcox 144
graves 142
mcpherson 139
paulus 133
nassib 132
mason 132
nunes 128
anderson 114
patterson 108
dantley 106

Yes! Nunes top 10.

Do you believe McDonald and Scharr were better QB's than Graves and McPherson?


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[Millhouse]

It's one statistic. Not the only one.

it's the best one. attempts throw everything off. everyone gets that people who outgain ernie davis are probably not better than ernie davis, but with qbs, it's all yards

 

[Millhouse]

Yes! Nunes top 10.

Do you believe McDonald and Scharr were better QB's than Graves and McPherson?

mcpherson was the best of that crew. mcpherson had a good year and a great year but hi junior year was not that good. doesn't really reflect the option either.

i do think graves is overrated and the qb play between mcpherson and graves is very underrated. graves threw a lot of ints.

mcnabb is way better than all of them.

qb ratings from mcphersons time are all low, even flutie's heisman year the rating wasn't so good. offense has come a long way.

 

[KaiserUEO]

it's the best one. attempts throw everything off. everyone gets that people who outgain ernie davis are probably not better than ernie davis, but with qbs, it's all yards

Yes, but you've successfully diverted the attention from my pointing out the OPs author, torpedoing his own point.

You blew it up! Damn you, god damn you all to hell!!

 

[ForeverOrange]

mcnabb 154
mcdonald 153
scharr 150
philcox 144
graves 142
mcpherson 139
paulus 133
nassib 132
mason 132
nunes 128
williams 117
anderson 114
patterson 108
dantley 106

not exhaustive, i just looked up whoever came to mind

If Hunt can just be as good as Kevin Mason, this would be a pretty good season.

 

[SUFan44]

Yes, but you've successfully diverted the attention from my pointing out the OPs author, torpedoing his own point.

You blew it up! Damn you, god damn you all to hell!!

NFL and college aren't the same. And your reading comprehension needs a bit of an adjustment - I have never once said Hunt is going to have a better career than Nassib. I never said specifically that he is better now than Nassib was as a senior.

I have said that he is better than Nassib was as a sophomore, and has the potential to be a better college QB than Nassib was.

 

[Millhouse]

If Hunt can just be as good as Kevin Mason, this would be a pretty good season.

agree. 132 is better than soph and jr Nassib and worse than senior Nassib

 

[RF2044]

it's the best one. attempts throw everything off. everyone gets that people who outgain ernie davis are probably not better than ernie davis, but with qbs, it's all yards

Its a good one for looking at things in amalgam, and normalizing the analysis to avoid skew toward more attempts / yards / etc. But I think we both know what Kaiser was getting at--he wasn't wrong when he said that Nassib statistically had one of the best seasons / careers in program history. Doesn't mean across ALL statistics, but across several.

 

[RMH44]

NFL and college aren't the same. And your reading comprehension needs a bit of an adjustment - I have never once said Hunt is going to have a better career than Nassib. I never said specifically that he is better now than Nassib was as a senior.

I have said that he is better than Nassib was as a sophomore, and has the potential to be a better college QB than Nassib was.

I still don't understand how anyone, sans a crystal ball, could make that leap considering that Terrel has less than 3 quarters of football under his belt.

I hope Hunt blows Nassib's soph year stats away because that would mean victories for the team. But, I'm certainly not in a position to rate him ahead of Ryan after playing one drive against NW's 3rd and 4th stringers and 2-plus quarters against a very weak Wagner squad. You could be setting yourself up for a huge letdown.

 

[SUFan44]

I still don't understand how anyone, sans a crystal ball, could make that leap considering that Terrel has less than 3 quarters of football under his belt.

I hope Hunt blows Nassib's soph year stats away because that would mean victories for the team. But, I'm certainly not in a position to rate him ahead of Ryan after playing one drive against NW's 3rd and 4th stringers and 2-plus quarters against a very weak Wagner squad. You could be setting yourself up for a huge letdown.

Won't be a huge letdown for me as a person - I am just stating what I see as it relates to my favorite college football team. Would be a letdown to the team for sure, but if I let myself get letdown by my sports teams I'd probably not be a Bills fan or a Syracuse fan at this point.

Nassib did nothing his sophomore year. Go back and watch the games. The defense put him in tremendous spots and Delone Carter was a beast. He was the 106th-best QB in the nation out of 120. Call me crazy - I am hopeful Hunt is better and see signs that he will be.

Could I be wrong? Of course I could be. But what's the fun in that?

I am extremely excited at the prospects of a dual-threat QB at the helm of my alma mater's football team that can actually throw the ball accurately and has a little moxie. And am hopeful he doesn't run into his own endzone and make ridiculous attempts at being Doug Flutie.

I saw enough that I think he is the real deal. Maybe others need more time. That's fine, but it doesn't change my opinion. And doesn't make me a complete idiot as some are ascertaining that I am.

 

[Millhouse]

Its a good one for looking at things in amalgam. But I think we both know what Kaiser was getting at--he wasn't wrong when he said that Nassib statistically had one of the best seasons / careers in program history. Doesn't mean across ALL statistics, but across several.

rating goes across several
individual seasons going back to mcpherson

year player rating rank

1995 mcnabb 162 1
1987 mcpherson 161 2
1997 mcnabb 154 3
1998 mcnabb 153 4
1985 mcpherson 150 5
1988 philcox 147 6
1989 mcdonald 147 6
1993 graves 147 6
1992 graves 145 9
1996 mcnabb 145 9
2012 nassib 143 11
1994 mason 138 12
1991 graves 137 13
1999 nunes 135 14
2000 nunes 135 14
1990 graves 133 16
2009 paulus 133 16
2011 nassib 130 18
2007 robinson 126 19
2001 anderson 124 20
2003 anderson 124 20
2010 nassib 124 20
2002 nunes 121 23
1986 mcpherson 119 24
2006 patterson 115 25
2004 patterson 113 26
2008 dantley 102 27
2005 patterson 93 28

 

[Millhouse]

rating goes across several
individual seasons going back to mcpherson

year player rating rank

1995 mcnabb 162 1
1987 mcpherson 161 2
1997 mcnabb 154 3
1998 mcnabb 153 4
1985 mcpherson 150 5
1988 philcox 147 6
1989 mcdonald 147 6
1993 graves 147 6
1992 graves 145 9
1996 mcnabb 145 9
2012 nassib 143 11
1994 mason 138 12
1991 graves 137 13
1999 nunes 135 14
2000 nunes 135 14
1990 graves 133 16
2009 paulus 133 16
2011 nassib 130 18
2007 robinson 126 19
2001 anderson 124 20
2003 anderson 124 20
2010 nassib 124 20
2002 nunes 121 23
1986 mcpherson 119 24
2006 patterson 115 25
2004 patterson 113 26
2008 dantley 102 27
2005 patterson 93 28

philcox's 147 looks pretty good, reason why he was in the nfl for so long. best season for someone not named mcsomething