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[capeorange]

For me it's the self reporting. In this century SU was still treating this as if it was the same environment as the time of probation 1. By the 2010's other schools had given SU the fight the NCAA at every turn blueprint.

Self reporting was just plain stupid and unnecessary.

 

[Bayside44]

Self reporting was just plain stupid and unnecessary.

It's what happens when we weren't going to spend to infinity like UNC and others did to fight back.

 

[capeorange]

It's what happens when we weren't going to spend to infinity like UNC and others did to fight back.

Silence doesn't cost a dime.

 

[rrlbees]

Here are the folks that made this decision.

Chair David Roberts
Special Assistant to the Athletics Director at Southern California; Chair of the Committee on Infractions

Norman C. Bay
Attorney

William Bock III
General Counsel for U.S. Anti-Doping Agency; Partner With Kroger, Gardis & Regas, LLP Law Firm

Tricia Turley Brandenburg
Towson University – Deputy Director of Athletics/SWA

Carol Cartwright
President Emerita of Bowling Green and Kent State; Vice Chair of the Committee on Infractions

Jody Conradt
Retired Head Women’s Basketball Coach; Special Assistant to Athletics at the University of Texas

Bobby Cremins
Former Head Men’s Basketball Coach at Appalachian State, Georgia Tech and College of Charleston

Rich Ensor
Commissioner of the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference

Alberto Gonzales
Dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of Law at Belmont; Former Attorney General of the United States

Kendra Greene
North Carolina Central University - SWA/Senior Associate AD for Internal Operations

Thomas Hill
Senior Vice President Emeritus at Iowa State

Cassandra Kirk
Chief Magistrate Judge – Atlanta, GA

Jason Leonard
Executive Director of Athletics Compliance at Oklahoma

Stephen A. Madva
Attorney

Joel Maturi
Former Director of Athletics at Minnesota

Gary Miller
President of University of Akron

Vince Nicastro
Deputy Commissioner and Chief Operating Officer of the Big East Conference

Kay Norton
President Emerita of Northern Colorado

Joe Novak
Former head football coach at Northern Illinois

Roderick Perry
Director of Athletics at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis

Jill Redmond
Senior Associate Commissioner at the Atlantic 10 Conference

David Roberts
Special Assistant to the Athletics Director at Southern California; Chair of the Committee on Infractions

Mary Schutten
Executive Vice President and Provost at Central Michigan

Sankar Suryanarayan
University Counsel, Princeton

 

[kidorange]

What I never got is how they avoided felony charges. They flew minors across state lines with the intent of buying them sex, sometimes with other minors. How's that not trafficking? Then the second infractions were serious and happened while on probation for the first. Insanity. Easily a death penalty on the Syracuse punishment scale. #givejbhiswinsback

 

[kidorange]

How can an abundantly funded institution whose sole purpose is to provide an environment of fairness and equality be so egregiously bad at practicing fairness and equality?

 

[Janner]

So what I've learned from all of this is... cheat. Just go out and cheat. I mean why not? If you get caught you catch a 5k and probation. When the NCAA issues the university the report, nod, file it in the circular pidgin hole, and just keep on going.

 

[DoctorBombay]

So what I've learned from all of this is... cheat. Just go out and cheat. I mean why not? If you get caught you catch a 5k and probation. When the NCAA issues the university the report, nod, file it in the circular pidgin hole, and just keep on going.

But but but…how would that make us look? Like (gasp), CHEATERS!!! And an institution with the stature and moral high-ground of Syracuse University must never, never I say, lose its self righteous standing.
Championships, schampionships, be damned!

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If not for our hometown paper and self reporting, SU would have no sanctions.

 

[baggerbob]

If not for our hometown paper and self reporting, SU would have no sanctions.

Two people in the original sanctions had things they had done removed from the report because they told the NCAA they would sue.
Dave Bing when he paid for a couple of recruits lunches, and DC when he loaned Billy 500$ for the trip to Maui.
Had the University threatened the same action, we probably would have gotten a minor slap on the wrist.

 

[SWC75]

There was also a thing about how, if you hired the law firm the NCAA recommended, the sanctions might be less. We did and they weren't.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[BigNastyJon]

So his win total should go down to 11, right?

Much like JB was first to hit 1000 twice, Penny will be first to hit 100 twice.

 

[cusefan88]

Give JB his wins back!

 

[Cuse'91]

JB should get his wins back. But, how does it work; do a bunch of other coaches have to have their wins adjusted too?

 

[OrangeDW]

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[MSOrange]

 

[721Comstock]

10 games and "probation"? PFFFT.

Guess LSU & Wade's attorneys made the NCAA a strong-ass offer.

 

[SWC75]

LSU closes book on Will Wade saga as NCAA hands down punishment for recruiting violations

BATON ROUGE - LSU's athletic department was hit with three years probation and a fine after an NCAA investigation into recruiting violation within the school's football and basketball programs.

www.wbrz.com

"School gets 3 years of probation, which ends in Sept. of this year."

They already went to bowl games the last two years.

 

[Niastri]

LSU closes book on Will Wade saga as NCAA hands down punishment for recruiting violations

BATON ROUGE - LSU's athletic department was hit with three years probation and a fine after an NCAA investigation into recruiting violation within the school's football and basketball programs.

www.wbrz.com

"School gets 3 years of probation, which ends in Sept. of this year."

They already went to bowl games the last two years.

So, no punishment at all.

 

[kcsu]

Here are the folks that made this decision.

Chair David Roberts
Special Assistant to the Athletics Director at Southern California; Chair of the Committee on Infractions

Norman C. Bay
Attorney

William Bock III
General Counsel for U.S. Anti-Doping Agency; Partner With Kroger, Gardis & Regas, LLP Law Firm

Tricia Turley Brandenburg
Towson University – Deputy Director of Athletics/SWA

Carol Cartwright
President Emerita of Bowling Green and Kent State; Vice Chair of the Committee on Infractions

Jody Conradt
Retired Head Women’s Basketball Coach; Special Assistant to Athletics at the University of Texas

Bobby Cremins
Former Head Men’s Basketball Coach at Appalachian State, Georgia Tech and College of Charleston

Rich Ensor
Commissioner of the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference

Alberto Gonzales
Dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of Law at Belmont; Former Attorney General of the United States

Kendra Greene
North Carolina Central University - SWA/Senior Associate AD for Internal Operations

Thomas Hill
Senior Vice President Emeritus at Iowa State

Cassandra Kirk
Chief Magistrate Judge – Atlanta, GA

Jason Leonard
Executive Director of Athletics Compliance at Oklahoma

Stephen A. Madva
Attorney

Joel Maturi
Former Director of Athletics at Minnesota

Gary Miller
President of University of Akron

Vince Nicastro
Deputy Commissioner and Chief Operating Officer of the Big East Conference

Kay Norton
President Emerita of Northern Colorado

Joe Novak
Former head football coach at Northern Illinois

Roderick Perry
Director of Athletics at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis

Jill Redmond
Senior Associate Commissioner at the Atlantic 10 Conference

David Roberts
Special Assistant to the Athletics Director at Southern California; Chair of the Committee on Infractions

Mary Schutten
Executive Vice President and Provost at Central Michigan

Sankar Suryanarayan
University Counsel, Princeton

Closet full of empty suits

 

[Owens guy]

Just close this thread. NCAA has no power to really punish anyone.

 

[SWC75]

Just close this thread. NCAA has no power to really punish anyone.

Anymore.

 

[gmoney44]

Just close this thread. NCAA has no power to really punish anyone.

Only us, Miami and SMU get the hammer. Notice a trend.