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Here are the details on the “Net Points” averaged by each scholarship player on the Syracuse team this season, plus the best years of famous SU players of the past for comparison. I’ll make this post once a month.
I compute the minutes, (M), per game for which the player was available. All the other statistics: points, (P), rebounds, (R ), assists (A), steals, (S), blocks, (B), missed field goals, (MFG), missed free throws, (MFT), turnovers, (TO) and personal fouls (PF), are per 40 minutes of play. You add the “positives” (P,R,A,S,B) and subtract the “negatives”, (MFG,MFT,TO,PF) and you have “net points” (NP). Subtract MFG and MFT from P and you have “offensive efficiency” (OE). Then subtract OE from NP and you get “floor game” (FG).
We have some versatile players on this team. I’ll list Coleman and Okoboh as centers because that’s all they play. I’ll list Lydon has a forward because that’s ideally where we want him to be if the center can produce. Roberson is obviously a forward. I’ll list Richardson, who is a swingman, among the forwards. Gbinije will clearly be in the backcourt this year so I’ll list him there with Cooney, Joseph and Howard.
After December, (I’m not including the Pittsburgh game because it’s part of the conference season. This will summarize the pre-conference season):
CENTERS
DaJuan COLEMAN
After November:
14.8m 7.2p 12.6r 1.3a 0.9s 3.1b = 25.1+ 4.0mfg 0.0mft 3.6to 8.1pf = 15.7- = 9.4NP 3.2OE 6.2FG
After December:
15.4m 14.2p 11.8r 1.2a 2.0s 2.0b = 31.2+ 4.2mfg 0.8mft 3.4to 6.0pf = 14.4- = 16.8NP 9.2OE 7.6FG
Chinoso OBOKOH
After November:
3.8m 1.7p 10.4r 1.7a 1.7s 7.0b = 22.5+ 1.7mfg 1.7mft 1.7to 13.9pf = 19.0- = 3.5NP 0.0OE 3.5FG
After December:
3.0m 12.3p 13.3r 1.0a 1.0s 4.1b = 31.7+ 3.1mfg 5.1mft 3.1to 12.3pf = 23.6- = 8.1NP 4.1OE 4.0FG
Comments:
Both guys greatly improved their numbers. In Obokoh’s case it was because he got to play extensively in one game and played well. He didn’t play in the other games and so that one game shot his numbers up. His overall numbers are pretty good, except for one thing: with 12.3 fouls per 40 minutes, he obviously can’t play very much in a game. That’s reflective of his defensive movement: you tend to commit fouls when you are out of positon on defense. And for that reason, he’s unlikely to play very much in the conference schedule . It’s going to be Coleman or Lydon at the ‘5’.
Coleman did play extensively against everybody, although he’s not a 30 minute a game guy. He, too has trouble with his defensive movements but he’s getting better as the foul rate shows. He’s scoring much better. His other numbers hardly changed but as he scores more and fouls less, he’ll play more.
FORWARDS
Tyler LYDON
After November:
31.0m 14.8p 11.2r 1.3a 1.7s 2.8b = 31.8+ 4.1mfg 0.9mft 1.3to 3.0pf = 9.3- = 22.5NP 9.8OE 12.7FG
After December:
32.3m 12.7p 8.9r 1.8a 1.6s 2.9b = 27.9+ 4.4mfg 0.8mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 9.2- = 18.7NP 7.5OE 11.2FG
Tyler ROBERSON
After November:
31.5m 11.0p 12.1r 1.9a 0.4s 0.6b = 26.0+ 5.1mfg 2.3a 2.5to 3.6pf = 13.5- = 12.5NP 3.6OE 8.9FG
After December:
29.8m 12.0p 11.0r 1.8a 0.4s 1.0b = 26.2+ 5.0mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 3.7pf = 13.4- = 12.8NP 4.7OE 8.1FG
Mal RICHARDSON
After November:
32.2m 17.2p 5.0r 2.3a 1.2s 0.0b = 25.7+ 6.8mfg 1.5mft 3.5to 3.5 pf = 15.3- = 10.4NP 8.9OE 1.5FG
After December:
31.5m 15.3p 6.0r 1.9a 1.5s 0.5b = 25.2+ 8.7mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 15.8- = 9.4NP 5.0OE 4.4FG
COMMENTS:
Lydon’s numbers have actually gone down probably because of extra defensive attention that his strong play has earned. He’s a good shooter but it’s all the other ways he helps the team that really make him valuable. I still think those abilities could best be used in the high post, rather that perimeter.
Roberson’s numbers have hardly changed. He’s scoring a bit more and rebounding a bit less. His whole issue is consistency of effort. With Coleman coming on and Lydon becoming Mainstay, he may see his playing time go down if he doesn’t have the pilot light on.
Consistency is also Richardson’s problem but the source of it is not the degree of effort: it’s his shooting. He’s missing a lot more shots and scoring less. He is rebounding better and committing fewer turnovers. But he’s in there to light up the scoreboard.
GUARDS
Michael GBINIJE
After November:
35.3m 22.3p 3.4r 4.7a 3.2s 0.6b = 34.2+ 6.2mfg 1.7mft 3.2to 2.8pf = 13.9- = 20.3p 14.4OE 5.9FG
After December:
37.4m 19.9p 4.4r 4.9a 2.9s 0.4b = 32.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 2.6to 2.8pf = 14.0- = 18.5p 11.3OE 7.2FG
Trevor COONEY
After November:
38.3m 15.7p 3.0r 3.7a 2.1s 0.2b = 24.7+ 8.6mfg 1.2mft 3.5to 0.7pf = 14.0- = 10.7NP 5.9OE 4.8FG
After December:
36.9m 14.7p 2.5r 3.2a 2.2s 0.2b = 22.8+ 8.2mfg 0.9mft 2.2to 1.1pf = 12.4- = 10.4p 5.6OE 4.8FG
Kaleb JOSEPH
After November:
8.5m 6.3p 1.6r 3.1a 1.6s 0.0b = 12.6+ 7.0mfg 0.0mft 3.1to 3.9pf = 14.0pf = -1.4NP -0.7OE -0.7FG
After December:
7.4m 6.7p 2.5r 5.0a 2.9s 0.8b = 17.9+ 6.7mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.3pf = 12.1- = 5.8p -0.4OE 6.2FG
Franklin HOWARD
After November:
4.5m 1.5p 10.4r 7.4a 0.0s 0.0b = 19.3+ 5.9mfg 4.4mft 0.0to 1.5pf = 11.8- = 7.5NP -8.8OE 16.3FG
After December:
7.2m 8.2p 7.7r 6.9a 1.7s 0.0b = 24.5+ 7.3mfg 2.2mft 1.3to 5.6pf = 16.4- = 8.1p -1.3OE 9.4FG
Comments:
Gbinije has yet to have a bad game but his shooting, whichw as white hot, has cooled a bit. But he’s still our best play, the rock that serves as the foundation of the team. You know what you’ll get from him but he can’t carry the team by himself. How far we good is dependent upon what the other players are doing.
I decided to look for the closest player on the lsits below to what Michael is doing statistically and I came up with these:
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 = 16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG (1993-94)
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- = 16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG (2003-04)
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- = 13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG (2008-09)
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- = 15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG (2009-10)
Brandon Triche 22.5m 16.6p 4.4r 4.6a 1.8s 0.2b = 27.6+ 8.0mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.4pf = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG (2011-12)
None of them are very snug fits, mostly because Gbinije is a 6-7 small forward playing point guard. I think maybe Autry is the bets comparison. Devendorf is a coring at exactly the same pace but he was a very different player, a master at dribbling through the defense to g et to the basket. Edelin was also a very different player, one who dominated the ball and was expert at backing down a defender to get off a short jumper. Triche rebounded at the same rate but was never this good a shooter. He and Devo are closest to G-Man in assists. Rautins had the same rate of steals but was much more disruptive at the top of the zone in other ways. Autry, Devendorf and Triche all missed more shots. Edelin was a worse free throw shooter: the others were all better. Edelin and Triche were about the same as Silent G in turnovers: the others were worse. Devendorf committed more fouls. The others were about the same.
Really, Mike seems a minority of one in SU history.
Cooney is Cooney is Cooney Is Cooney.
Joseph and Howard have alternated playing in different games. Howard scores more and rebounds much more He gets more assists. Joseph makes more steals and has blocked a couple of shots. Joseph is a much better free throw shooter, (based on limited numbers). Howard commits too many fouls. But overall, I’ll take Howard and I think we should have done more to make him a permanent part of the rotation.
I compute the minutes, (M), per game for which the player was available. All the other statistics: points, (P), rebounds, (R ), assists (A), steals, (S), blocks, (B), missed field goals, (MFG), missed free throws, (MFT), turnovers, (TO) and personal fouls (PF), are per 40 minutes of play. You add the “positives” (P,R,A,S,B) and subtract the “negatives”, (MFG,MFT,TO,PF) and you have “net points” (NP). Subtract MFG and MFT from P and you have “offensive efficiency” (OE). Then subtract OE from NP and you get “floor game” (FG).
We have some versatile players on this team. I’ll list Coleman and Okoboh as centers because that’s all they play. I’ll list Lydon has a forward because that’s ideally where we want him to be if the center can produce. Roberson is obviously a forward. I’ll list Richardson, who is a swingman, among the forwards. Gbinije will clearly be in the backcourt this year so I’ll list him there with Cooney, Joseph and Howard.
After December, (I’m not including the Pittsburgh game because it’s part of the conference season. This will summarize the pre-conference season):
CENTERS
DaJuan COLEMAN
After November:
14.8m 7.2p 12.6r 1.3a 0.9s 3.1b = 25.1+ 4.0mfg 0.0mft 3.6to 8.1pf = 15.7- = 9.4NP 3.2OE 6.2FG
After December:
15.4m 14.2p 11.8r 1.2a 2.0s 2.0b = 31.2+ 4.2mfg 0.8mft 3.4to 6.0pf = 14.4- = 16.8NP 9.2OE 7.6FG
Chinoso OBOKOH
After November:
3.8m 1.7p 10.4r 1.7a 1.7s 7.0b = 22.5+ 1.7mfg 1.7mft 1.7to 13.9pf = 19.0- = 3.5NP 0.0OE 3.5FG
After December:
3.0m 12.3p 13.3r 1.0a 1.0s 4.1b = 31.7+ 3.1mfg 5.1mft 3.1to 12.3pf = 23.6- = 8.1NP 4.1OE 4.0FG
Comments:
Both guys greatly improved their numbers. In Obokoh’s case it was because he got to play extensively in one game and played well. He didn’t play in the other games and so that one game shot his numbers up. His overall numbers are pretty good, except for one thing: with 12.3 fouls per 40 minutes, he obviously can’t play very much in a game. That’s reflective of his defensive movement: you tend to commit fouls when you are out of positon on defense. And for that reason, he’s unlikely to play very much in the conference schedule . It’s going to be Coleman or Lydon at the ‘5’.
Coleman did play extensively against everybody, although he’s not a 30 minute a game guy. He, too has trouble with his defensive movements but he’s getting better as the foul rate shows. He’s scoring much better. His other numbers hardly changed but as he scores more and fouls less, he’ll play more.
FORWARDS
Tyler LYDON
After November:
31.0m 14.8p 11.2r 1.3a 1.7s 2.8b = 31.8+ 4.1mfg 0.9mft 1.3to 3.0pf = 9.3- = 22.5NP 9.8OE 12.7FG
After December:
32.3m 12.7p 8.9r 1.8a 1.6s 2.9b = 27.9+ 4.4mfg 0.8mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 9.2- = 18.7NP 7.5OE 11.2FG
Tyler ROBERSON
After November:
31.5m 11.0p 12.1r 1.9a 0.4s 0.6b = 26.0+ 5.1mfg 2.3a 2.5to 3.6pf = 13.5- = 12.5NP 3.6OE 8.9FG
After December:
29.8m 12.0p 11.0r 1.8a 0.4s 1.0b = 26.2+ 5.0mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 3.7pf = 13.4- = 12.8NP 4.7OE 8.1FG
Mal RICHARDSON
After November:
32.2m 17.2p 5.0r 2.3a 1.2s 0.0b = 25.7+ 6.8mfg 1.5mft 3.5to 3.5 pf = 15.3- = 10.4NP 8.9OE 1.5FG
After December:
31.5m 15.3p 6.0r 1.9a 1.5s 0.5b = 25.2+ 8.7mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 15.8- = 9.4NP 5.0OE 4.4FG
COMMENTS:
Lydon’s numbers have actually gone down probably because of extra defensive attention that his strong play has earned. He’s a good shooter but it’s all the other ways he helps the team that really make him valuable. I still think those abilities could best be used in the high post, rather that perimeter.
Roberson’s numbers have hardly changed. He’s scoring a bit more and rebounding a bit less. His whole issue is consistency of effort. With Coleman coming on and Lydon becoming Mainstay, he may see his playing time go down if he doesn’t have the pilot light on.
Consistency is also Richardson’s problem but the source of it is not the degree of effort: it’s his shooting. He’s missing a lot more shots and scoring less. He is rebounding better and committing fewer turnovers. But he’s in there to light up the scoreboard.
GUARDS
Michael GBINIJE
After November:
35.3m 22.3p 3.4r 4.7a 3.2s 0.6b = 34.2+ 6.2mfg 1.7mft 3.2to 2.8pf = 13.9- = 20.3p 14.4OE 5.9FG
After December:
37.4m 19.9p 4.4r 4.9a 2.9s 0.4b = 32.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 2.6to 2.8pf = 14.0- = 18.5p 11.3OE 7.2FG
Trevor COONEY
After November:
38.3m 15.7p 3.0r 3.7a 2.1s 0.2b = 24.7+ 8.6mfg 1.2mft 3.5to 0.7pf = 14.0- = 10.7NP 5.9OE 4.8FG
After December:
36.9m 14.7p 2.5r 3.2a 2.2s 0.2b = 22.8+ 8.2mfg 0.9mft 2.2to 1.1pf = 12.4- = 10.4p 5.6OE 4.8FG
Kaleb JOSEPH
After November:
8.5m 6.3p 1.6r 3.1a 1.6s 0.0b = 12.6+ 7.0mfg 0.0mft 3.1to 3.9pf = 14.0pf = -1.4NP -0.7OE -0.7FG
After December:
7.4m 6.7p 2.5r 5.0a 2.9s 0.8b = 17.9+ 6.7mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.3pf = 12.1- = 5.8p -0.4OE 6.2FG
Franklin HOWARD
After November:
4.5m 1.5p 10.4r 7.4a 0.0s 0.0b = 19.3+ 5.9mfg 4.4mft 0.0to 1.5pf = 11.8- = 7.5NP -8.8OE 16.3FG
After December:
7.2m 8.2p 7.7r 6.9a 1.7s 0.0b = 24.5+ 7.3mfg 2.2mft 1.3to 5.6pf = 16.4- = 8.1p -1.3OE 9.4FG
Comments:
Gbinije has yet to have a bad game but his shooting, whichw as white hot, has cooled a bit. But he’s still our best play, the rock that serves as the foundation of the team. You know what you’ll get from him but he can’t carry the team by himself. How far we good is dependent upon what the other players are doing.
I decided to look for the closest player on the lsits below to what Michael is doing statistically and I came up with these:
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 = 16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG (1993-94)
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- = 16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG (2003-04)
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- = 13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG (2008-09)
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- = 15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG (2009-10)
Brandon Triche 22.5m 16.6p 4.4r 4.6a 1.8s 0.2b = 27.6+ 8.0mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.4pf = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG (2011-12)
None of them are very snug fits, mostly because Gbinije is a 6-7 small forward playing point guard. I think maybe Autry is the bets comparison. Devendorf is a coring at exactly the same pace but he was a very different player, a master at dribbling through the defense to g et to the basket. Edelin was also a very different player, one who dominated the ball and was expert at backing down a defender to get off a short jumper. Triche rebounded at the same rate but was never this good a shooter. He and Devo are closest to G-Man in assists. Rautins had the same rate of steals but was much more disruptive at the top of the zone in other ways. Autry, Devendorf and Triche all missed more shots. Edelin was a worse free throw shooter: the others were all better. Edelin and Triche were about the same as Silent G in turnovers: the others were worse. Devendorf committed more fouls. The others were about the same.
Really, Mike seems a minority of one in SU history.
Cooney is Cooney is Cooney Is Cooney.
Joseph and Howard have alternated playing in different games. Howard scores more and rebounds much more He gets more assists. Joseph makes more steals and has blocked a couple of shots. Joseph is a much better free throw shooter, (based on limited numbers). Howard commits too many fouls. But overall, I’ll take Howard and I think we should have done more to make him a permanent part of the rotation.
