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Kadary is now playing 30+ minutes consistently. He broke out of a bad shooting slump and is scoring in double figures with good numbers across the board. Seton Hall is 14-7.
His per 40 minutes averages and net points for this year and last year:
2021-22: (21g 15gs 26.0m) 13.3p 5.9r 6.1a 2.9s 0.5b = 28.7+ 7.5mfg 0.8mft 3.7to 3.2pf = 15.2- = 13.5NP
2020-21: (28g 3gs 21.0m) 12.0p 5.0r 5.8a 3.1s 1.0b = 26.9+ 5.2mfg 1.2mft 3.0to 2.6pf = 12.0- = 14.9NP


Quincy had a big game in a loss to Colorado and hit 3 of 5 threes in his last game but overall has shot poorly from outside. He continues to be a good rebounder. He hasn’t played as much or as well as he did at SU. Oregon is 15-7.
2021-22: (22g 22gs 25.9m) 14.0p 8.4r 1.2a 1.1s 0.5b = 25.2+ 6.7mfg 1.2mft 1.7to 4.0pf = 13.6- = 11.6NP
2020-21: (28g 28gs 32.9m) 16.6p 10.2r 1.0a 1.0s 1.4b = 30.2+ 6.5mfg 1.4mft 1.3to 3.4pf = 12.6- = 17.6NP


Robert was red hot from three the last two games and has been scoring in double figures. His free throw shooting has been amazing (29 of 31 .935). Still, he doesn’t exactly fill up the rest of the stat sheet. His rebounds are down and assists up. They must be using him as a guard. Of course, the box score doesn’t measure defense, beyond steals and blocks. Charlotte is 13-9.
2021-22: (21g 10gs 21.9m) 16.8p 3.1r 1.0a 1.0s 0.9b = 22.8+ 5.0mfg 0.2mft 1.7to 3.2pf = 10.1- = 12.7NP
2020-21: (24g 0gs 12.1m) 12.4p 6.2r 0.4a 1.4s 1.0b = 21.4+ 4.4mfg 0.3mft 1.1to 4.1pf = 9.9 = 11.5NP


Woody’s getting mostly single-digit minutes. He’s played exactly 10 minutes three times. He hasn’t scored in a month. His shooting has been terrible. Oklahoma State is 11-11.
2021-22: (12g 0gs 7.3m) 12.0p 5.1r 1.4a 1.8s 1.4b = 21.7+ 7.4mfg 1.4mft 1.1to 4.1pf = 14.0- = 7.7NP
2020-21 (11g 0gs 7.9m) 17.5p 9.2r 0.5a 1.4s 1.4b = 30.0+ 6.9mfg 1.4mft 1.8to 4.1pf = 14.2- = 15.8NP


Jalen has been playing double figures in minutes but scoring in single fingers. He’s not filing up the stat sheet much, either. His assists are way down, so it doesn’t appear as if they are using him as a point guard. Rhode Island is 12-9.
2020-22: (37g 3gs 15.1m) 12.9p 6.2r 1.7a 1.0s 0.9s = 22.7+ 6.1mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.4pf = 14.2- = 8.5NP
2018-20: (27g 4gs 12.1m) 11.0p 5.5r 3.2a 2.1s 0.5b = 22.3+ 6.3mfg 2.2mft 5.4to 1.6pf = 15.5- = 6.8NP



Brycen hasn’t scored more than 2 points in a game since November and has 2 assists on the season. He’s only played in one game in the last month. He is on a very strong team, (Providence, 20-2)
2020-22: (29g 0gs 8.2m) 9.7p 4.7r 1.7a 2.4s 0.8b = 19.3+ 6.2mfg 0.9mft 2.5to 4.7pf = 14.3- = 5.0NP
2019-20: (23g 0gs 8.7m) 8.8p 4.8r 3.2a 2.2s 0.4b = 19.4+ 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.4pf = 14.4- = 5.0NP
Weird, huh?
 
Kadary has been playing better late due to his increase in playing time because of Bryce Aiken being out. Quincy is basically fitting into his new team and scoring about the same with the ratio of minutes played vice to minutes played last year. Robert Braswell is playing about the same with the exception he is getting more minutes than at Syracuse. He is scoring at higher rate where at Syracuse he was noted for his overall play. Miss him here. Jalen, Woody and Brycen are playing at a lower level than expected when recruited by Syracuse. Perhaps they will do better in their later years in college.

Good post and information, SWC75.
 
My monthly update. Be nice!


Kadary is now playing 30+ minutes consistently. He broke out of a bad shooting slump and is scoring in double figures with good numbers across the board. Seton Hall is 14-7.
His per 40 minutes averages and net points for this year and last year:
2021-22: (21g 15gs 26.0m) 13.3p 5.9r 6.1a 2.9s 0.5b = 28.7+ 7.5mfg 0.8mft 3.7to 3.2pf = 15.2- = 13.5NP
2020-21: (28g 3gs 21.0m) 12.0p 5.0r 5.8a 3.1s 1.0b = 26.9+ 5.2mfg 1.2mft 3.0to 2.6pf = 12.0- = 14.9NP


Quincy had a big game in a loss to Colorado and hit 3 of 5 threes in his last game but overall has shot poorly from outside. He continues to be a good rebounder. He hasn’t played as much or as well as he did at SU. Oregon is 15-7.
2021-22: (22g 22gs 25.9m) 14.0p 8.4r 1.2a 1.1s 0.5b = 25.2+ 6.7mfg 1.2mft 1.7to 4.0pf = 13.6- = 11.6NP
2020-21: (28g 28gs 32.9m) 16.6p 10.2r 1.0a 1.0s 1.4b = 30.2+ 6.5mfg 1.4mft 1.3to 3.4pf = 12.6- = 17.6NP


Robert was red hot from three the last two games and has been scoring in double figures. His free throw shooting has been amazing (29 of 31 .935). Still, he doesn’t exactly fill up the rest of the stat sheet. His rebounds are down and assists up. They must be using him as a guard. Of course, the box score doesn’t measure defense, beyond steals and blocks. Charlotte is 13-9.
2021-22: (21g 10gs 21.9m) 16.8p 3.1r 1.0a 1.0s 0.9b = 22.8+ 5.0mfg 0.2mft 1.7to 3.2pf = 10.1- = 12.7NP
2020-21: (24g 0gs 12.1m) 12.4p 6.2r 0.4a 1.4s 1.0b = 21.4+ 4.4mfg 0.3mft 1.1to 4.1pf = 9.9 = 11.5NP


Woody’s getting mostly single-digit minutes. He’s played exactly 10 minutes three times. He hasn’t scored in a month. His shooting has been terrible. Oklahoma State is 11-11.
2021-22: (12g 0gs 7.3m) 12.0p 5.1r 1.4a 1.8s 1.4b = 21.7+ 7.4mfg 1.4mft 1.1to 4.1pf = 14.0- = 7.7NP
2020-21 (11g 0gs 7.9m) 17.5p 9.2r 0.5a 1.4s 1.4b = 30.0+ 6.9mfg 1.4mft 1.8to 4.1pf = 14.2- = 15.8NP


Jalen has been playing double figures in minutes but scoring in single fingers. He’s not filing up the stat sheet much, either. His assists are way down, so it doesn’t appear as if they are using him as a point guard. Rhode Island is 12-9.
2020-22: (37g 3gs 15.1m) 12.9p 6.2r 1.7a 1.0s 0.9s = 22.7+ 6.1mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.4pf = 14.2- = 8.5NP
2018-20: (27g 4gs 12.1m) 11.0p 5.5r 3.2a 2.1s 0.5b = 22.3+ 6.3mfg 2.2mft 5.4to 1.6pf = 15.5- = 6.8NP



Brycen hasn’t scored more than 2 points in a game since November and has 2 assists on the season. He’s only played in one game in the last month. He is on a very strong team, (Providence, 20-2)
2020-22: (29g 0gs 8.2m) 9.7p 4.7r 1.7a 2.4s 0.8b = 19.3+ 6.2mfg 0.9mft 2.5to 4.7pf = 14.3- = 5.0NP
2019-20: (23g 0gs 8.7m) 8.8p 4.8r 3.2a 2.2s 0.4b = 19.4+ 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.4pf = 14.4- = 5.0NP
Weird, huh?

Just to add on to the records...per Bracket Matrix:
- Seton Hall, 9 seed
- Oregon, 12 seed (one of the last 4)
- Providence, 4 seed

Everyone else - Out
 
My monthly update. Be nice!


Kadary is now playing 30+ minutes consistently. He broke out of a bad shooting slump and is scoring in double figures with good numbers across the board. Seton Hall is 14-7.
His per 40 minutes averages and net points for this year and last year:
2021-22: (21g 15gs 26.0m) 13.3p 5.9r 6.1a 2.9s 0.5b = 28.7+ 7.5mfg 0.8mft 3.7to 3.2pf = 15.2- = 13.5NP
2020-21: (28g 3gs 21.0m) 12.0p 5.0r 5.8a 3.1s 1.0b = 26.9+ 5.2mfg 1.2mft 3.0to 2.6pf = 12.0- = 14.9NP


Quincy had a big game in a loss to Colorado and hit 3 of 5 threes in his last game but overall has shot poorly from outside. He continues to be a good rebounder. He hasn’t played as much or as well as he did at SU. Oregon is 15-7.
2021-22: (22g 22gs 25.9m) 14.0p 8.4r 1.2a 1.1s 0.5b = 25.2+ 6.7mfg 1.2mft 1.7to 4.0pf = 13.6- = 11.6NP
2020-21: (28g 28gs 32.9m) 16.6p 10.2r 1.0a 1.0s 1.4b = 30.2+ 6.5mfg 1.4mft 1.3to 3.4pf = 12.6- = 17.6NP


Robert was red hot from three the last two games and has been scoring in double figures. His free throw shooting has been amazing (29 of 31 .935). Still, he doesn’t exactly fill up the rest of the stat sheet. His rebounds are down and assists up. They must be using him as a guard. Of course, the box score doesn’t measure defense, beyond steals and blocks. Charlotte is 13-9.
2021-22: (21g 10gs 21.9m) 16.8p 3.1r 1.0a 1.0s 0.9b = 22.8+ 5.0mfg 0.2mft 1.7to 3.2pf = 10.1- = 12.7NP
2020-21: (24g 0gs 12.1m) 12.4p 6.2r 0.4a 1.4s 1.0b = 21.4+ 4.4mfg 0.3mft 1.1to 4.1pf = 9.9 = 11.5NP


Woody’s getting mostly single-digit minutes. He’s played exactly 10 minutes three times. He hasn’t scored in a month. His shooting has been terrible. Oklahoma State is 11-11.
2021-22: (12g 0gs 7.3m) 12.0p 5.1r 1.4a 1.8s 1.4b = 21.7+ 7.4mfg 1.4mft 1.1to 4.1pf = 14.0- = 7.7NP
2020-21 (11g 0gs 7.9m) 17.5p 9.2r 0.5a 1.4s 1.4b = 30.0+ 6.9mfg 1.4mft 1.8to 4.1pf = 14.2- = 15.8NP


Jalen has been playing double figures in minutes but scoring in single fingers. He’s not filing up the stat sheet much, either. His assists are way down, so it doesn’t appear as if they are using him as a point guard. Rhode Island is 12-9.
2020-22: (37g 3gs 15.1m) 12.9p 6.2r 1.7a 1.0s 0.9s = 22.7+ 6.1mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.4pf = 14.2- = 8.5NP
2018-20: (27g 4gs 12.1m) 11.0p 5.5r 3.2a 2.1s 0.5b = 22.3+ 6.3mfg 2.2mft 5.4to 1.6pf = 15.5- = 6.8NP



Brycen hasn’t scored more than 2 points in a game since November and has 2 assists on the season. He’s only played in one game in the last month. He is on a very strong team, (Providence, 20-2)
2020-22: (29g 0gs 8.2m) 9.7p 4.7r 1.7a 2.4s 0.8b = 19.3+ 6.2mfg 0.9mft 2.5to 4.7pf = 14.3- = 5.0NP
2019-20: (23g 0gs 8.7m) 8.8p 4.8r 3.2a 2.2s 0.4b = 19.4+ 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.4pf = 14.4- = 5.0NP
Weird, huh?

Woody is the one that surprises me most. Rooting for him.
 
Oh what could have been.
Now that we have a clearer understanding of possible worlds, we can expose three major confusions about possibility and causation that have bedeviled the quest for an account of free will. First is the fear that determinism reduces our possibilities. We can see why the claim seems to have merit by considering a famous example proposed many years ago by John Austin:
Consider the case where I miss a very short putt and kick myself because I could have holed it. It is not that I should have holed it if I had tried: I did try, and missed. It is not that I should have holed it if conditions had been different: that might of course be so, but I am talking about conditions as they precisely were, and asserting that I could have holed it. There is the rub. Nor does "I can hole it this time" mean that I shall hole it this time if I try or if anything else; for I may try and miss, and yet not be convinced that I could not have done it; indeed, further experiments may confirm my belief that I could have done it that time, although I did not. (Austin 1961, p. 166)
Austin didn't hole the putt. Could he have, if determinism is true? The possible-worlds interpretation exposes the misstep in Austin's thinking. First, suppose that determinism holds, and that Austin misses, and let H be the sentence "Austin holes the putt." We now need to choose the set X of relevant possible worlds that we need to canvass to see whether he could have made it. Suppose X is chosen to be the set of physically possible worlds that are identical to the actual world at some time t0 prior to the putt. Since determinism says that there is at any instant exactly one physically possible future, this set of worlds has just one member, the actual world, the world in which Austin misses. So, choosing set X in this way, we get the result that H does not hold for any world in X. So it was not possible, on this reading, for Austin to hole the putt.

 
Now that we have a clearer understanding of possible worlds, we can expose three major confusions about possibility and causation that have bedeviled the quest for an account of free will. First is the fear that determinism reduces our possibilities. We can see why the claim seems to have merit by considering a famous example proposed many years ago by John Austin:

Austin didn't hole the putt. Could he have, if determinism is true? The possible-worlds interpretation exposes the misstep in Austin's thinking. First, suppose that determinism holds, and that Austin misses, and let H be the sentence "Austin holes the putt." We now need to choose the set X of relevant possible worlds that we need to canvass to see whether he could have made it. Suppose X is chosen to be the set of physically possible worlds that are identical to the actual world at some time t0 prior to the putt. Since determinism says that there is at any instant exactly one physically possible future, this set of worlds has just one member, the actual world, the world in which Austin misses. So, choosing set X in this way, we get the result that H does not hold for any world in X. So it was not possible, on this reading, for Austin to hole the putt.

It didn't happen so it couldn't happen is an interesting theory. It also suggests that we don't know all the variables. If we knew all the variables that caused Austin to miss the putt (cause) we could alter them so a different result would occur (result). That has resulted in a million new putter sales.
 
Having two semesters of a philosophy class and 6 in physics back in my days on the hill there is a little too much philosophical pull vs mathematical consideration here.

Keeping it outside of academic interpretation, a couple of the guys are having decent seasons. When you factor the uniqueness of their successes here there is a oh what could have been for both of them as well at their new schools that has not really played out and possibly altered their long term trajectory.

Had KR come in and put up 11, 6, 5 as he likely could and QG 16/8 or better as he likely could, both players would be in conversations about opportunities at the next level. As it stands now- they are simply trying to be consistently double digit scorers with KR having the likely edge to get there.

A huge shift for both of them. Hope it works out and we get to see at least one of them have success at the next level.
 
Now that we have a clearer understanding of possible worlds, we can expose three major confusions about possibility and causation that have bedeviled the quest for an account of free will. First is the fear that determinism reduces our possibilities. We can see why the claim seems to have merit by considering a famous example proposed many years ago by John Austin:

Austin didn't hole the putt. Could he have, if determinism is true? The possible-worlds interpretation exposes the misstep in Austin's thinking. First, suppose that determinism holds, and that Austin misses, and let H be the sentence "Austin holes the putt." We now need to choose the set X of relevant possible worlds that we need to canvass to see whether he could have made it. Suppose X is chosen to be the set of physically possible worlds that are identical to the actual world at some time t0 prior to the putt. Since determinism says that there is at any instant exactly one physically possible future, this set of worlds has just one member, the actual world, the world in which Austin misses. So, choosing set X in this way, we get the result that H does not hold for any world in X. So it was not possible, on this reading, for Austin to hole the putt.



I took a couple of philosophy classes in college, (50 years ago). In one the issue was "Can the existence of God be proven or disproven?" The professor went over every known argument pro and con and took each apart, finally concluding that God's existence couldn't be proven or disproven. I could have told him that - and that those who choose to believe or not believe aren't doing that based on 'proof' anyway.

The other class resulted in an endless conversation between the professor and a favored student who dominated each class with a conversation like the one above. One day they had a debate about whether the chair the student was sitting in really existed. After about a half hour, I raised my hand and suggested that if the chair didn't exist, the student would be sitting on the floor, (if that existed), and maybe the university, for all we pay them in tuition, could supply him with a chair that really existed, (if the University does).

In the fifty years since, I've never used anything I learned from either course.

I suspect that "I could have holed it" means simply that Mr. Austin had the physical ability to make the put and the circumstances under which he attempted it would not have prevented him from doing so. He just missed it.
 
I took a couple of philosophy classes in college, (50 years ago). In one the issue was "Can the existence of God be proven or disproven?" The professor went over every known argument pro and con and took each apart, finally concluding that God's existence couldn't be proven or disproven. I could have told him that - and that those who choose to believe or not believe aren't doing that based on 'proof' anyway.

The other class resulted in an endless conversation between the professor and a favored student who dominated each class with a conversation like the one above. One day they had a debate about whether the chair the student was sitting in really existed. After about a half hour, I raised my hand and suggested that if the chair didn't exist, the student would be sitting on the floor, (if that existed), and maybe the university, for all we pay them in tuition, could supply him with a chair that really existed, (if the University does).

In the fifty years since, I've never used anything I learned from either course.

I suspect that "I could have holed it" means simply that Mr. Austin had the physical ability to make the put and the circumstances under which he attempted it would not have prevented him from doing so. He just missed it.

I am more preferential to reading up on quantum theory related matters where there is a mathematical/physical range of possibilities vs philosophical. I always found philosophical theories to be infinite and circular in one which to me seemed defeatist and a waste of valuable time. Not that there isn't value in pursuing a singular set of philosophies that take you on a linear path- its the inability of the discipline to avoid that circulation and constant reference to the unknown or the contrary view at every turn that gets old quickly.

That said having some philosophy chops in school when you encounter a cute coed who is into it came in handy.
 
Having two semesters of a philosophy class and 6 in physics back in my days on the hill there is a little too much philosophical pull vs mathematical consideration here.

Keeping it outside of academic interpretation, a couple of the guys are having decent seasons. When you factor the uniqueness of their successes here there is a oh what could have been for both of them as well at their new schools that has not really played out and possibly altered their long term trajectory.

Had KR come in and put up 11, 6, 5 as he likely could and QG 16/8 or better as he likely could, both players would be in conversations about opportunities at the next level. As it stands now- they are simply trying to be consistently double digit scorers with KR having the likely edge to get there.

A huge shift for both of them. Hope it works out and we get to see at least one of them have success at the next level.

I think it's also important to keep in mind that current performance is NOT a predictor of how any player who transferred out would have performed here. Also that numbers don't tell the entire story.

Example - Braswell was a proven contributor at SU, who was also a plus defender IN OUR SYSTEM. He might be putting up the same numbers here, or maybe he wouldn't -- we'll never know. But I think it is reasonable to assume that coming off the bench, he'd give us a lot more scoring pop than what our lineup has this year, so his "contribution" to team success as a proven scorer / shooter / defender might be greater than just the sum of the statistics he hypothetically would have provided.

I view Kadary similarly. We can't just look at what he's doing this year at Seton Hall and expect similar outcomes at SU. He was a terrific system fit for us, especially defensively. It is impossible to project what he'd do here, whether he'd improve his jump shot, etc. But some of his struggles at SHU could be attributable to system fit. I remember when he decided to leave, Mike Waters had something in his mailbag where he asked the question about whether Kadary might get "exposed" having to play M2M defense. In our system, his height, long arms, strong anticipation, rebounding prowess, etc. made him formidable up top in the zone. Some of those attributes might not translate as well when he has to hitch his shorts up and cover his guy M2M. Conversely, in the zone he played the passing lanes off the ball and generated a lot of steals.
 
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I think it's also important to keep in mind that current performance is NOT a predictor of how any player who transferred out would have performed here. Also that numbers don't tell the entire story.

Example - Braswell was a proven contributor at SU, who was also a plus defender IN OUR SYSTEM. He might be putting up the same numbers here, or maybe he wouldn't -- we'll never know. But I think it is reasonable to assume that coming off the bench, he'd give us a lot more scoring pop than what our lineup has this year, so his "contribution" might be greater than just the sum of the statistics he provides.

I view Kadary similarly. He was a terrific system fit for us, especially defensively. It is impossible to project what he'd do here, whether he'd improve his jump shot, etc. But some of his struggles at SHU could be attributable to system fit. I remember when he decided to leave, Mike Waters had something in his mailbag where he asked the question about whether Kadary might get "exposed" having to play M2M defense. In our system, his height, long arms, strong anticipation, rebounding prowess, etc. made him formidable up top in the zone. Some of those attributes might not translate as well when he has to hitch his shorts up and cover his guy M2M. Conversely, in the zone he played the passing lanes and generated a lot of steals.

Right. My point as well is that because of system fit, and the history of SU PGs getting drafted, the likely better numbers provide better exposure. There was a lot of buzz around him then he got to SH and its been all about Aiken and Rhoden. The buzz is gone.

For QG- JB gives him AA kudos and more attention would be there like for KR( assuming they didn't fall off the wagon). He is in no man's land now and likely has to add another year at Oregon vs using it as a Jr year bouncing off point.

Poor fit can have a domino effect the wrong direction just the same as good fit in the right.

There is no way to truly "know" but the odds/likelihood of certain outcomes was better here.
 
Now that we have a clearer understanding of possible worlds, we can expose three major confusions about possibility and causation that have bedeviled the quest for an account of free will. First is the fear that determinism reduces our possibilities. We can see why the claim seems to have merit by considering a famous example proposed many years ago by John Austin:

Austin didn't hole the putt. Could he have, if determinism is true? The possible-worlds interpretation exposes the misstep in Austin's thinking. First, suppose that determinism holds, and that Austin misses, and let H be the sentence "Austin holes the putt." We now need to choose the set X of relevant possible worlds that we need to canvass to see whether he could have made it. Suppose X is chosen to be the set of physically possible worlds that are identical to the actual world at some time t0 prior to the putt. Since determinism says that there is at any instant exactly one physically possible future, this set of worlds has just one member, the actual world, the world in which Austin misses. So, choosing set X in this way, we get the result that H does not hold for any world in X. So it was not possible, on this reading, for Austin to hole the putt.

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