SU players who transferred thread

[orangefog]

BANG!!!! Guerrier for three!!!!!

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Houston 78, Oregon 49

#	Player	PTS	FG	3FG	FT	REB	A	PF	TO	MIN
13*	GUERRIER	3	1-4	1-4	0-0	2	1	1	1	17

 

[blust2i3d4]

Houston 78, Oregon 49

#	Player	PTS	FG	3FG	FT	REB	A	PF	TO	MIN
13*	GUERRIER	3	1-4	1-4	0-0	2	1	1	1	17

Any reason he only played 17 minutes? He was ACC star last year.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Maybe his former head coach, who limited the number of perimeter shots he could take, knew what he was doing.

You mean that old guy who is in the HOF?

 

[Timonen]

Any reason he only played 17 minutes? He was ACC star last year.

His skills don’t fit what they do. It’s sad, really. They seem committed to that offense and he’s not the guy for that. Everybody involved shoulda seen that coming.

 

[jncuse]

Quincy Guerrier...

Think he's regretting his decision now?

2 pts. vs. Chaminade, 2 pts. vs. Saint Mary's, and currently 0-2 and 0 pts. vs. Houston at Maui (Vegas) Invitational.

Good thing he's allowed to take 3's there (4-for-20). 20 of his 38 FG attempts are from 3.

I doubt it.

He was third team all ACC at Syracuse as a sophomore and that did not even get him a sniff in the NBA draft. That was his goal and that wasn't going to happen here especially since his role was not going to change.

He wanted to be afforded an opportunity to change his game to see if he could be an NBA player. He took the chance. It will likely not work. He will no longer have the "what if's" -- thinking that if he took a different path he could have been drafted in the NBA.

Some of you guys are real petty for a guy that gave it all to the team while he was here and was gracious when he left.

 

[two3zone]

His skills don’t fit what they do. It’s sad, really. They seem committed to that offense and he’s not the guy for that. Everybody involved shoulda seen that coming.

Does Swider fit in what we do?

 

[rrlbees]

Does Swider fit in what we do?

Yes. We’re a 3 point shooting team.

 

[Timonen]

Does Swider fit in what we do?

He’s not absent in our sets, so yeah? Not that any referendum on him has anything to do with Quincy which is the discussion.

 

[jncuse]

Yes. We’re a 3 point shooting team.

Are we really though? On the surface your comment makes some sense to me and I didn't immediately disagree. Although I realized that most teams are "3 point shooting teams" now a days so I looked where we were ranked relatively. The numbers seem to disagree with our initial thought at least on a relative basis.

Syracuse is 214th out of 358 in terms of three point shots per game at 21.7. Perhaps its just a sample size thing or an opponent thing, and we will move up as the season goes.

As an aside VCU is #352 at 14.3

 

[Bayside44]

I doubt it.

He was third team all ACC at Syracuse as a sophomore and that did not even get him a sniff in the NBA draft. That was his goal and that wasn't going to happen here especially since his role was not going to change.

He wanted to be afforded an opportunity to change his game to see if he could be an NBA player. He took the chance. It will likely not work. He will no longer have the "what if's" -- thinking that if he took a different path he could have been drafted in the NBA.

Some of you guys are real petty for a guy that gave it all to the team while he was here and was gracious when he left.

He would’ve shown enough to camp and showcase had he stayed and won some games. Maybe he still does now but he’s really exposed himself, or something like that, with this move.

 

[the villager]

To the transfers usually the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know.

 

[rrlbees]

Are we really though? On the surface your comment makes some sense to me and I didn't immediately disagree. Although I realized that most teams are "3 point shooting teams" now a days so I looked where we were ranked relatively. The numbers seem to disagree with our initial thought.

Syracuse is 214th out of 358 in terms of three point shots per game at 21.7. Perhaps its just a sample size thing or an opponent thing, and we will move up as the season goes.

As an aside VCU is #352 at 14.3

Sure, we have too many players that don’t shoot or can’t shoot a 3. But the make up of the team is for Swider to give us the 3 point shooter on the opposite wing of buddy and then we have Joe up top. So Swider very much fits with our scheme. It helps protect our best shooter by not allowing defenses to overload buddies side.

 

[Mareiniss]

Are we really, though? On the surface your comment makes some sense to me and I didn't immediately disagree. Although I realized that most teams are "3 point shooting teams" now a days so I looked where we were ranked relatively. The numbers seem to disagree with our initial thought.

Syracuse is 214th out of 358 in terms of three point shots per game at 21.7. Perhaps its just a sample size thing or an opponent thing, and we will move up as the season goes.

As an aside VCU is #352 at 14.3

Yes. We rank 11th out of 358 in 3-point shooting percentage, at 43.1%, according to ESPN:

2022-23 Men's Basketball Team Stats | ESPN

Visit ESPN to view 2022-23 Men's Basketball team stats

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[jncuse]

Sure, we have too many players that don’t shoot or can’t shoot a 3. But the make up of the team is for Swider to give us the 3 point shooter on the opposite wing of buddy and then we have Joe up top. So Swider very much fits with our scheme. It helps protect our best shooter by not allowing defenses to overload buddies side.

Fair point.

I would say more that there is a defined role for Cole on this team as a 3 point shooter, rather than saying we are a "3 point shooting team".

 

[jncuse]

Yes. We rank 11th out of 358 in 3-point shooting percentage, at 43.1%, according to ESPN:

2022-23 Men's Basketball Team Stats | ESPN

Visit ESPN to view 2022-23 Men's Basketball team stats

www.espn.com

San Diego is best in the country at three point % and only hits 7 threes a game. I wouldn't call them a three point shooting team.

I'm not even insulting the team by saying we are not a "3 point shooting team". All I am saying is we are playing much more balanced in terms of shot selection than the majority of teams. That is my point.

 

[Mareiniss]

It looks like Kamari Richmond has lost his starting job at Seton Hall.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

I doubt it.

He was third team all ACC at Syracuse as a sophomore and that did not even get him a sniff in the NBA draft. That was his goal and that wasn't going to happen here especially since his role was not going to change.

He wanted to be afforded an opportunity to change his game to see if he could be an NBA player. He took the chance. It will likely not work. He will no longer have the "what if's" -- thinking that if he took a different path he could have been drafted in the NBA.

Some of you guys are real petty for a guy that gave it all to the team while he was here and was gracious when he left.

He has plenty of eligibility and time this year to turn it around.

Benny didn't show up as a plug and play superstar we could use QG.

It looks like Kamari Richmond has lost his starting job at Seton Hall.

He'll probably start to play really well now coming off the bench.

 

[orangemass]

QG 1-3 shooting 2 points in the first half...wonder what hes thinking bout his transfer at the moment...

He’s going pro next year. He’s going to lite it up

 

[Jzsshuttles]

I doubt it.

He was third team all ACC at Syracuse as a sophomore and that did not even get him a sniff in the NBA draft. That was his goal and that wasn't going to happen here especially since his role was not going to change.

He wanted to be afforded an opportunity to change his game to see if he could be an NBA player. He took the chance. It will likely not work. He will no longer have the "what if's" -- thinking that if he took a different path he could have been drafted in the NBA.

Some of you guys are real petty for a guy that gave it all to the team while he was here and was gracious when he left.

You’re wrong. He would have been a huge piece to this team. Go back and watch the tournament games from last year. He was playing exactly how he wanted to. Was making the 3 ball. A little midrange and was bullying people to the rim. He played great to end the year and was setting himself up for a giant year

 

[jncuse]

You’re wrong. He would have been a huge piece to this team. Go back and watch the tournament games from last year. He was playing exactly how he wanted to. Was making the 3 ball. A little midrange and was bullying people to the rim. He played great to end the year and was setting himself up for a giant year

OK

 

[CU44SE]

Sure, we have too many players that don’t shoot or can’t shoot a 3. But the make up of the team is for Swider to give us the 3 point shooter on the opposite wing of buddy and then we have Joe up top. So Swider very much fits with our scheme. It helps protect our best shooter by not allowing defenses to overload buddies side.

So if you have 3 guys camping out at the three point line that do not have dribble drive capabilities. Who is going to break down the defense to then kick it out to those shooters? Because this offensive strategy you speak of is not a good one. Because there is 2 ways to break down a defense.

1- ball movement and movement without the ball

2- dribble drive, penetrate and draw defense in to kick out.

We don’t do either of these things……

 

[djcon57]

So if you have 3 guys camping out at the three point line that do not have dribble drive capabilities. Who is going to break down the defense to then kick it out to those shooters? Because this offensive strategy you speak of is not a good one. Because there is 2 ways to break down a defense.

1- ball movement and movement without the ball

2- dribble drive, penetrate and draw defense in to kick out.

We don’t do either of these things……

The idea of spacing is being exposed without someone who can navigate within the space.

 

[Sherman20]

He stands in the corner or wing. He hardly plays in the post and goes several trips down the floor and never touches the ball.

This is what I said last spring. No coach would maximize Q’s abilities and make him the best player he can be as well as JB. He would have been an important piece for us this season even with Jimmy and Cole joining.

 

[Jzsshuttles]

OK

Yeah. You have zero clue on Syracuse’s plans for Quincy this year yet you speak in actualities like you know