Thomas Bryant

SoBeCuse · Nov 20, 2015

Brooky03 said:
Syracuse has a BS reputation now for not developing talent at the 5. However undeserved the label is, I think it's going to affect recruiting at that position for a little while. I can't imagine there is literally any real advantage in choosing Indiana over us, but Zeller went pro so that must mean Crean developes big man talent... in the mind of teenager looking for the most direct route to the NBA.

Whatever. I wish the kid well no matter how stupid his choice was.

Is that perception really true? I have no idea. Francis would probably know for sure. Seems like Bryant's decision was purely based on getting out of the area and away from home, no? Or Boeheim didn't close the deal since he went to Huntington?

orangefan13 · Nov 20, 2015

Fab was 2 and done number 21 draft pick who played the game of basketball for 4 years whats there to develop?
Rak was a skinny 6'11 Pf playing center in HS averaged only 10ppg.
Dajuan coleman has two bad knees.
Arinze Onuaku was only a 3 star recruit I believe played in the nba without being drafted.
Jerami Grant was two and done as a PF.
Rick Jackson was a 3 some said 4 star who got a look at the nba without a jumpshot.
That is the last 7 years.
Go five before that and Watkins and Warrick were drafted into the NBA.

If there is its dead wrong. We are out recruiting bigs right now.

Brooky03 · Nov 20, 2015

SoBeCuse said:
Is that perception really true? I have no idea. Francis would probably know for sure. Seems like Bryant's decision was purely based on getting out of the area and away from home, no? Or Boeheim didn't close the deal since he went to Huntington?

I assumed Bryant's decision was based on his perception of the playing time he'd get here, but that's just a guess. If he just wanted to get away, I'd imagine there were better options than s**thole Indiana.

My assessment of that perception comes from my experience on national boards. Anytime Syracuse is brought up in a converasation about a recruit at Center, a lot of people tend to chime in that Boeheim ruins big men.

SoBeCuse · Nov 20, 2015

Brooky03 said:
I assumed Bryant's decision was based on his perception of the playing time he'd get here, but that's just a guess. If he just wanted to get away, I'd imagine there were better options than s**thole Indiana.

My assessment of that perception comes from my experience on national boards. Anytime Syracuse is brought up in a converasation about a recruit at Center, a lot of people tend to chime in that Boeheim ruins big men.

Interesting. Crean is probably a good salesman with his B.S. and outgoing demeanor. Bloomington is a nice college town however. Indy is great. Towns like Muncie and Evansville suck but having been to B-Town a few times; I can tell you it's nice for sure.

Brooky03 · Nov 20, 2015

SoBeCuse said:
Interesting. Crean is probably a good salesman with his B.S. and outgoing demeanor. Bloomington is a nice college town however. Indy is great. Towns like Muncie and Evansville suck but having been to B-Town a few times; I can tell you it's nice for sure.

I just meant the program in general. Coach sucks, players are iffy, fans are weirdos. Stuff like that. Assembly Hall seems nice, though.

RoatanCuse · Nov 20, 2015

cliftonparksufan said:
This could be one of those deals that might work out in our favor. Especially if he leaves after one season. With us down on scholarships we really can't afford to lose anyone early. As it is, we don't have anything to offer Taurean Thompson yet.

That is a good point about losing a guy early. I was thinking only of this year, but you are right to have the longer term view.

two3zone · Nov 20, 2015

Brooky03 said:
I hope we play Indiana in the NCAAT and embarrass them again

You really want to face a team that has a beast at the 5? Who stops TB against us?

skurey · Nov 20, 2015

two3zone said:
You really want to face a team that has a beast at the 5? Who stops TB against us?

Our offense (hopefully)

tee1222 · Nov 20, 2015

two3zone said:
You really want to face a team that has a beast at the 5? Who stops TB against us?

Why don't we ask this guy? He was the beast of the year at the pivot. Look where it got him.

two3zone · Nov 20, 2015

tee1222 said:
Why don't we ask this guy? He was the beast of the year at the pivot. Look where it got him.

Yeah, but I see Rak in the photo, even before his breakout year he was a solid 5 in the zone. DC or Chino isn't doing that to anybody.

pearl31 · Nov 20, 2015

Next year I'm gonna make a thread called Harry Giles.

4the Dubs · Nov 23, 2015

Just took a L to the worse team in the ACC last year. Guess who the weakest link was? Every time I looked up he was getting abused.

two3zone · Nov 23, 2015

4the Dubs said:
Just took a L to the worse team in the ACC last year. Guess who the weakest link was? Every time I looked up he was getting abused.

8pts 8 reb, 2 blk freshman not wearing SU colors is considered being abused, in Orange he's considered a lottery pick.

CusefanATL · Nov 24, 2015

Brooky03 said:
I hope we play Indiana in the NCAAT and embarrass them again

That night was top 10 in my life. It was so shocking, so refreshing, so dominating. I saw with @tomcat and was pessimistic the entire 1st half. Didn't think it could possibly last. It did.

Ward · Nov 24, 2015

two3zone said:
8pts 8 reb, 2 blk freshman not wearing SU colors is considered being abused, in Orange he's considered a lottery pick.

Not sure if you saw the game or not so this isn't meant to sound snarky. It became pretty evident down the stretch that Wake was trying to get whoever Bryant was guarding on an island and attack him. They cross screened low to get a one on one on the low block for a few buckets and then when it was a 1 point game/tied with less than 1 min left on back to back possessions they spread the floor, pulled his man a step or two above the arc for a ball screen, and allowed their pg to attack Bryant in space. That led to two lay ups that gave Wake the lead twice.

Bryant is a real good player and undoubtedly would've helped us quite a bit this year. As Francis tweeted out playing in our zone would've helped hide one of Bryant's biggest weaknesses, his lateral quickness. In Indiana's system my guess would be every school with a stretch big just pulls Bryant away from the paint and tries to nullify his strength of interior defense/rebounding and then try to get him with some cheap fouls by reaching/bumping when he gets caught flat footed in space. He'll still be a real good college player though NBA prospects might be tough if he can't guard away from the rim on screen and rolls.

SWC75 · Nov 24, 2015

Thomas Bryant: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3934723/thomas-bryant

DaJuan Coleman: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61821/dajuan-coleman

tee1222 · Nov 26, 2015

two3zone said:
Yeah, but I see Rak in the photo, even before his breakout year he was a solid 5 in the zone. DC or Chino isn't doing that to anybody.

How about now? Looks familiar to me.

two3zone · Nov 26, 2015

tee1222 said:
How about now? Looks familiar to me.

Hope that wasn't on one of the many and ones that Coleman allowed :eek:

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I kid I kid. They looked great today. The interior passing defense needs some work but the guys did great today.

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