Time for the “You up?” Text to Mike Hopkins

[UnknownOrange]

Why would he?

The Pac 12 stinks

 

[DaCuse]

No, would you leave Seattle to live in central New York?

Actually, yes. Yes I would.

 

[Jake]

I like Hop. That said I think it's time for the school to move on from the JB tree. New eyes, energy, and system.

So let’s set the criteria for a new head coach:

1) P5 Head coaching experience (Success)
2) Proven recruiter
3) Northeast ties
4) Potential long term commitment to the area
5) Can teach m2m
6) No previous history @SU.

Good luck finding anyone other than Hop who checks 5 of 6 boxes.

 

[Newhouser]

So let’s set the criteria for a new head coach:

1) P5 Head coaching experience (Success)
2) Proven recruiter
3) Northeast ties
4) Potential long term commitment to the area
5) Can teach m2m
6) No previous history @SU.

Good luck finding anyone other than Hop who checks 5 of 6 boxes.

Who set that as the criteria? Is Big East P5? Holtmann and Mack seem to be adjusting okay to the rigors of the Big 10 and ACC. I want a guy who can recruit and attract players via style of play or culture, who isn't tied to JB's massive shadow. Long term commitment isn't my worry, it's the AD's, and if we are such an elite program as most here claim why is that a concern, we are a destination job.

 

[two3zone]

So let’s set the criteria for a new head coach:

1) P5 Head coaching experience (Success)
2) Proven recruiter
3) Northeast ties
4) Potential long term commitment to the area
5) Can teach m2m
6) No previous history @SU.

Good luck finding anyone other than Hop who checks 5 of 6 boxes.

You're right, Hop is probably the only one. Maybe Oats in a couple of years.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Who set that as the criteria?

Everyone who has ever posted here in the past 5 years.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I love the angst over Hop on this board. When he took over for JB for that short stretch, the majority of the posters on this board wanted nothing to do with him as the next HC. Hilarious

That's not completely true. I think there was a substantial number of people who said he should go away and get head coaching experience, and that we should conduct a national search, to include Mike, of course, if he didn't bomb out at his first head coaching gig.

I think there are a substantial number of people who feel the same way about the current assistants - that any of them should go get head coaching experience before we turn over the program to them. Same as Mike - except that none of them are remotely close to Mike as a recruiter.

But now that Mike's had his taste of success, and is in the middle of building his own thing for a fan base who really likes him, it's a hard sell to get him to come back. I think only Jim calling him would get it done, and I don't see Boeheim EVER thinking that he still isn't the best coach out there. It's who he is.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Imho, this undermines the closer to home argument or makes it way less persuasive. He gets paid multi-millions per year. Let him use the jet. Seattle to la isnt a short jaunt.

edit: just checked it out, seattle is 1200 from los angeles. Thats not that close to home.

It's a New York-to-Orlando flight. But with 2 busy airports so that your fares are not outrageous (not that Mike has to worry about that ...).

 

[Zelda Zonk]

He lived in Syracuse a lot longer than he lived out West.

I lived in New York 4x as long as I’ve been in Cali. I’m not going back to New York. Certainly not Syracuse.

I don’t expect mike to go back. I only half wish he would.

 

[IthacaMatt]

The Pac 12 stinks

Gonzaga always wins its league but Mark Few never left. Why would he? Would you rather coach for 15-20 more years in the same place making tons of money, or 3 or 4 more years and then potentially be looking for a new job again, having to move your family somewhere else.

 

[tbonezone]

sell low buy high is never a good strategy for gaining wealth.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Can we get Otis to reprogram a NORAD missile and have Seattle fall into the pacific?

Little known fact... the cascadia fault will likely take care of that at some point. It’s overdue for a quake and when that fault goes its usually a powerful one. I believe the last one caused a tsunami in Japan... Cascadia subduction zone - Wikipedia

 

[hoopsupstate]

I don't even care if Hop ever comes back. I just want to have a coaching search and see all the big names interested in this job so I can tell all the moaners on here wondering why anyone would want to come to coach Syracuse basketball to shove it up their you know what.

I think you will be disappointed in the names that come up in a national search. None of them will be household names. It will be some mid-major coach or Autry.

 

[hoopsupstate]

If Mike came, would he keep JBs assistants? Do we believe ALL the player development issues are solely on JB? Would be curious if Hop would have the guts up clean house.

also, the P12 is a joke and Hop is already a god there. If he can win 18+games a year, mixed in with a P12 title and S16 run every 3 or 4 years he’ll write his ticket there

He wanted to take GMAC with him to Washington, but Wildhack quickly locked up JB and his assistants stayed.

 

[SUOrangeSU]

Hop is getting that first call, if he says no...Oats will get the second call if he has any type of success in the south...then goes national + Red interview. No Gerry

 

[hoopsupstate]

Hop is getting that first call, if he says no...Oats will get the second call if he has any type of success in the south...then goes national + Red interview. No Gerry

I’m not a big Oats fan. I find him arrogant with zero personality.

 

[007]

I lived in New York 4x as long as I’ve been in Cali. I’m not going back to New York. Certainly not Syracuse.

I don’t expect mike to go back. I only half wish he would.

Thanks for sharing. To be fair, either would i (I think). But, i also think that what 007 or Zelda Zonk or John Doe would do is completely irrelevant to what Hop may or may not decide to do.

 

[Alsacs]

He wanted to take GMAC with him to Washington, but Wildhack quickly locked up JB and his assistants stayed.

This isn’t true. The first sentence.
It’s been reported but not true.
Hopkins wanted Jason Hart but not GMac.

 

[syrBossHogg]

Washington is fun to watch, just imagine if Stewart/Wright/Carter were here

 

[two3zone]

Washington is fun to watch, just imagine if Stewart/Wright/Carter were here

First half was fun. I keep going back and forth on who is better McDaniels or Stewart.

Guess that is a pretty good problem to have.

 

[syrBossHogg]

First half was fun. I keep going back and forth on who is better McDaniels or Stewart.

Guess that is a pretty good problem to have.

I'd take Stewart but McDaniels can make plays

 

[two3zone]

I'd take Stewart but McDaniels can make plays

I'd take Stewart as well, but the way McDaniels can create space is something I haven't seen in awhile in college ball.

It's funny to watch a team where all 5 guys on the floor can handle the ball.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I'd take Stewart but McDaniels can make plays

That’s why they are both five star players, but stars don’t really matter!!!

 

[dollarbill44]

Everyone who has ever posted here in the past 5 years.

I didn't sign off on that criteria.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Little known fact... the cascadia fault will likely take care of that at some point. It’s overdue for a quake and when that fault goes its usually a powerful one. I believe the last one caused a tsunami in Japan... Cascadia subduction zone - Wikipedia

I’m aware. And I’m suggesting we should figure out cascadia’s optimum stress point. Then let Otis or hyrdrofracking do the rest.