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McNabb & Konrad were frosh! Clemson had no answer to them and Thomas & Harrison. I made the trip and Jax was flooded with Clemson fans and it seemed all their cars were flying flags. When it started raining on game-day, the fans of both teams bought orange rain slickers - a real Orange-out. The Tiger fans seemed polite but very over-confident. At the end of the day they were silent and shocked! They were favored, but McNabb & Co. owned them the entire day.Amazing. Harrison averaged 20 YPC and Wilson averaged 13. Thomas and Konrad were beasts. Roland Williams went on to the Rams. Talent all over the field for tha group.
Harrison, McNabb, Konrad, Williams, KJ, TBuck, Darius, Abrams, Mare
other guys had some time at the next level but those guys all played for significant time.
Defense was decimated for that Miami game. I remember Phil Nash getting torched repeatedly and we couldn't stop the run.Chip said:I still want the previous game back. At Miami. But with a healthy Abrams and Ponds. We would have won. I still think we ended up Gator (VT would still get Sugar on head to head win against us), but maybe we get one of the bigger ones. A healthy 1995 team at season's end stacks up with some of our best ever.
I had the distinct displeasure of attending that game. We rented a really nice condo up at Amelia Island.
Ocean front but at a great price. Maybe 7th 8th floor. We were fogged in for the entire 3 or 4 days we were
there and talk about your harbingers of things to come. The game was played in a steady misty rain
and we could not wait to get out of there. We left for home (Charleston) right after the game and we got monsooned
on for the entire 4 hour drive. Just miserable. Not my best bowl experience. A little minor revenge
last season.
i remember thinking the same thing about that miami game and the resulting situation, but i had to look it up to confirm...and yeah, unless you value the carquest or citrus more (i do for the Cotton, but they wouldnt have taken us anyway) the Orange likely wouldve ended up in the Gator anyway.I still want the previous game back. At Miami. But with a healthy Abrams and Ponds. We would have won. I still think we ended up Gator (VT would still get Sugar on head to head win against us), but maybe we get one of the bigger ones.
A healthy 1995 team at season's end stacks up with some of our best ever.
this is surprising, shows how memory fades. i have a hard time believing this but that team was outgained that year. scoring offense and scoring defense were both top 20. that is probably incredibly rare. i'd love to know just how rare that is to be top 20 in scoring o and d while getting outgained. harrison returning punts explains some of that
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/syracuse/1995.html
11 completions a game, 18 attempts. less than 60 plays per game. 70/30 run to pass.
i'm not complaining, it's just amazing to me. what would that team do in today's offenses. we need a time machine
wonder how much improved depth has to do with more plays for more guys.Difference with those teams and the current program, a lot of high end talent but big drop off in depth, made a huge difference when injuries occurred.
Current team, much less spread top to bottom, I think this team is probably better than those bottom half of the roster, but the top third isn't close.
As for time machine, spread offense with Marvin, Wilson, Turner, KJ and Maddox, and a backfield of Thomas, TBuck, KMAC, Konrad, and the TE duo with McNabb as QB running 80 plays a game.
We were also better with the big plays than the small ones if the Gator Bowl is any indication.wonder how much improved depth has to do with more plays for more guys.
a lot of the top 20 scoring stuff comes from obliterating really horrible dregs. i don't have yards handy.
offense was 4 for 4 in the top 20 scoring from 95-98. defense was 3 for 4. (big drop in 98... these dots are here for a reason... ... ... not going to do it ... don't do it...)
We were also better with the big plays than the small ones if the Gator Bowl is any indication.
Here is the link for the second half for those that want to finish watching.
Here is the link for the second half for those that want to finish watching.
The dagger is McNabb to Wilson (7:30 into the video), who runs away from the Tiger 2ndary, after a big defensive stop to open the 2nd half.
shotgun snapping the ball to a good running quarterback and letting him decide to run if he wants is something that works every downWe had great skill position people but the line wasn't good enough to consistently sustain drives. That was the big difference between the 90's teams and the 1987-88 teams. We used to say that our best play was a quarterback scramble on third down.