2018 Fall Camp: Practice #11 Tues. August 14

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[blizz]

The list of camp injuries has me spooked. We've heard these guys will be back before...only to have them never ultimately return.

 

[Chip]

We need a ruling from Chip

Confirmed.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I think our strength coach is a bit different that your typical meat head, lot more zen than most in my opinion. don't get me wrong strength coaches are all pushers but there are ways to get there than just being a total richardhead. I firmly believe this and that Dino and Eddinger's approach is a bit different and probably why he has followed Dino everywhere and has such a huge role in the program.

Eddinger has a bit of a different background than most

 

[bnoro]

It's pretty difficult to read both Whigham & Bailey and figure out how the team is really looking.

Feel like Whigham being the former player is overly positive and Bailey being a beat writer is overly negative so it's tough to gauge. (This is not a shot at Bailey let's not turn it into a bash thread)

 

[upperdeck]

I get the sense our A game could be much better than the last 5-6 yrs, but who knows if all we get out of the young kids is a C game with mistakes?

Our Oline wasnt great at run blocking but decent enough last year we still moved the ball.. Is there anyway they could have regressed? if not then when we should OK moving the ball. I hope that the dline is better and takes the heat off the LBs.

 

[RF2044]

I get the sense our A game could be much better than the last 5-6 yrs, but who knows if all we get out of the young kids is a C game with mistakes?

Our Oline wasnt great at run blocking but decent enough last year we still moved the ball.. Is there anyway they could have regressed? if not then when we should OK moving the ball. I hope that the dline is better and takes the heat off the LBs.

The OL regressing is the last thing I'm worried about. Last year, we had a key injury right before the season to a projected starter, and ended up having to start two redshirt freshmen with zero game experience.

This season, we have 6 players with 10 or more games of starting experience, PLUS we added a highly rated grad transfer who is really, really good. We've got better depth, size, and athletic ability 1-10 in the two deep than we've had in a LONG time, possibly back to the late 90s.

I don't see this unit regressing -- I think they take a substantial step FORWARD.

 

[CuseLegacy]

It's pretty difficult to read both Whigham & Bailey and figure out how the team is really looking.

Feel like Whigham being the former player is overly positive and Bailey being a beat writer is overly negative so it's tough to gauge. (This is not a shot at Bailey let's not turn it into a bash thread)

It may also be that Julian gets to watch more of practice than the rest of the media being an IMG employee. Just me being wishful.

 

[oldpinepoint]

It may also be that Julian gets to watch more of practice than the rest of the media being an IMG employee. Just me being wishful.

Julian also knows what he is talking about.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Ish88888]

I must say for a high tempo team, this 2 minutes of a practice look in seems very leisurely. It Really does. The full vid on cuse.com shows the OL going through pass blocking drills and they, too, are super leisurely, lol. I know these kids and coaches work like crazy and get after it, but this 2 or 3 minutes is VERY leisurely.

 

[Ish88888]

I think our strength coach is a bit different that your typical meat head, lot more zen than most in my opinion. don't get me wrong strength coaches are all pushers but there are ways to get there than just being a total richardhead. I firmly believe this and that Dino and Eddinger's approach is a bit different and probably why he has followed Dino everywhere and has such a huge role in the program.

Eddinger has a bit of a different background than most

Spot on, DINO knows talent player or coach or anyone that will be associated with his team. He is the only other staff member with permission to address the team. These kids need trust and faith in the S&C guys. They spend alot of time together and they need them to train and push limits, but train safely and wisely. This is the new approach in college athletics, especially football. Its about reps, core, stability, flexibility, and most importantly football application: burst, explosion, stability with the core, and aerobic endurance playing at a high tempo and not tiring physically or mentally.

 

[PhatOrange]

Paper said the run game is ahead of the pass game right now. Is that a good thing

 

[bnoro]

Julian also knows what he is talking about.

Both guys know what they are talking about.

 

[RMH44]

Paper said the run game is ahead of the pass game right now. Is that a good thing

Yes, as HCDB has stated on numerous occasions, you have to possess the ability to run the ball and stop the run to be successful long term.

Or maybe, it's just Bailey doing his best to set the stage for TD...again.

 

[bnoro]

I must say for a high tempo team, this 2 minutes of a practice look in seems very leisurely. It Really does. The full vid on cuse.com shows the OL going through pass blocking drills and they, too, are super leisurely, lol. I know these kids and coaches work like crazy and get after it, but this 2 or 3 minutes is VERY leisurely.

This is every single warm up in practices from pop warner to the pros. They're not going to run full speed the first 10 minutes.

 

[Ish88888]

This is every single warm up in practices from pop warner to the pros. They're not going to run full speed the first 10 minutes.

Good point, silly me, i forgot we are allowed to only see the first 10 minutes

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Is that picture real? The proportions are freaking me out.

 

[texascpa]

Is that picture real? The proportions are freaking me out.

What's not proportion?

 

[SmilinBob]

If the staff knows when to pull back the harness and let the vets get recelebrated, it's the smart move because they (vets) know what to do plus it'll give reps to the younger guys and more eyeballs on them to see what they can do.

One question I have is...when is this "depth" thing finally going to be addressed? A year...2...3? A complete Babers cycle of 5 years?

 

[A Clockwork Orange]

If the staff knows when to pull back the harness and let the vets get recelebrated, it's the smart move because they (vets) know what to do plus it'll give reps to the younger guys and more eyeballs on them to see what they can do.

One question I have is...when is this "depth" thing finally going to be addressed? A year...2...3? A complete Babers cycle of 5 years?

That's a great question, and I wonder it myself. What I think personally is we should give Dino the Cutcliffe treatment. Duke gave him a long leash, in part because they knew he was a good coach, and they knew their team wasn't going to find better if they fired him. Duke had been a football doormat for years, and Cutcliffe with time, has given them a national reputation.

I firmly believe athletic departments give coaches that have been demonstrably good in other situations a very small window for success. Specifically when we're talking about a team like ours, that hasn't been truly relevant on a national scale since 1998.

I say five to six years is important for this type of rebuild. It breeds continuity and a natural buy in to the system. In Cutcliffe's third and fourth year at Duke, the team went 3-9. In year 5 they went 6-7 with a bowl appearance. In year 6, they go 10-4. That's not a fluke. That's a school that needed a complete football reorganization. We're closer to them than we are a Maryland or a UCLA in terms of talent available.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Is that picture real? The proportions are freaking me out.

From the moment I saw the picture, I thought of Eddie from The Rocky Horror Picture Show. He had "Love" and "Hate" on his knuckles, I believe. Hot Patootie, bless my soul!