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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 3632841, member: 5685"] Are we assuming post Liberty D? Or are we taking the entire 12 games? Post Liberty D is easily a Bowl D. The entire 12 games is good enough to make a Bowl but you need a decent O. 2019 between bye week 1 and bye week 2 was worse on O than the majority of this year. So if we are getting that O, Dino is on the hot seat. If we get 2019 pre bye week 1 O we will be functional but we will not make a Bowl. If we get 2019 post bye week 2 O we will make a Bowl. If you are taking the entire 12 games then I would say it is not enough to make a Bowl. Also crowd will be a factor. We play different a home with the fans there. That will increase our chances. If Covid is still around then it makes it even harder. [/QUOTE]