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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 3649623, member: 60"] Love the optimism but just don't see it. I'm onboard, though, to get the most out of guys and trade for more picks. I don't think there is a ton of potential. I think Thibs can raise our floor but our ceiling is pretty limited, imo. Nets and Wizards are going to be better on top of the existing teams that already are slotting in for playoff spots. Not sure how we can sneak in. I'm not trying to look down on the optimism, I watched the Cavs/Knicks pre-season game the other night so you know where I stand in my fandom. Either we get a big time FA (not likely) or we need to land some big hits in the next few drafts. Otherwise, Thibs will raise our floor, but I'm not sure what else we can count on. [/QUOTE]