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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 4305714, member: 363"] That's how I look at it Yes and a place win and win/ place bets along the way. Usually 2-3 a day max. You get the single home and things can get interesting. Sunday I placed two win bets on Rosario at short odds in turf sprints but I hit on a win/place bet in the 9th ( 3-2 zone) at 11-1. I played a $2.50 pick 4 where the ticket was 4x1x3x3 so a total investment of $90 and it paid around $3,330 and rare but I learned if you single in multi race bets but lose in other legs you have nothing to show for what are typically your strongest opinions which made no sense. at worst you want to pay for the cost of multi race ticket if the single hits along the way The 2 win bets and 1 win place bet paid around $1,000. I had 3 singles and they all won. Damn good day. I dropped about $175 earlier in the card. But race 5 I bet $100 win on a 2-1 and that got me moving in the right direction and it snowballed from there. If I play a pick 4 or pick 5 I usually have at least one single in there, definitely the pick 5. The win bets are usually more chalk type bets anything over 6-1 I usually go win/ place. Saturday I whiffed on 2 win bets and never got going but I played a pick 4 at the end of the day and missed the last race. I liked the Brad Cox winner in the Sanford but held off with a win bet because I was already 0-2 in previous win bets and told myself I wasn't going to chase as I have done countless times. The late pick 4 and pick 5 pools on the weekends are pretty lucrative if you can catch a price or two. late pick 4 paid $3400 on $.50. I rarely play exactas or tris. If I am going poorly I scale back and play doubles and pick 3's. You are still going to lose more bets than you win but if you can pick up a few bucks along the way it keeps the bankroll going and depending how I am doing that week I can move up or down if I have house $. at Saratoga I start every week with the same bankroll as opposed to blowing a good profit from the week before. Years ago I would have chased a lot more on Saturday because I was up from Friday but I have learned the hard way there. Only day I find it hard to bet like this is Saturday breeders cup. Tough to find singles [/QUOTE]

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