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Message: [QUOTE="relaxer, post: 4403709, member: 7852"] But Lyle's foot speed and overall athleticism are still miles ahead of what Deere's are; I would argue that he does have elite foot speed. But regardless, whether you agree on the traits or not Lyle was not just a stick skills guy; he was an elite two-way midfielder with great dodging ability and vision. Deere is not what I would call a great dodger even at the high school level and he certainly lacks the athleticism to be an elite midfielder. He's also not an elite feeder. He has a very specific skillset; great finisher who can create his own shot when defenses take bad approaches or a primary dodger draws the defense out of alignment. [/QUOTE]