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Message: [QUOTE="sutomcat, post: 4315918, member: 27"] I like the Givens trade. That was a rare Met trade that made sense and might make the team better. I was mad to trade JD for Ruf straight up. 35 years old. .216 BA. -0.5 WAR. You should get a player like that free on the waiver wire. Was really mad when it came out the Mets also sent 3 prospects in the deal. Sigh. The biggest weakness with the team is bullpen pen. It has been all season. It was a problem last year. It wasn’t addressed during the off season and it still hasn’t been addressed. We traded Holderman and got Givens. Similar stats but Colin is 6 years younger. I hope things work out and the lack of bullpen depth doesn’t hurt the team. Looks like it has already cost the team a game tonight. [/QUOTE]