2022 NFL Thread

[STEVEHOLT]

Harder game for KC vs Jax than SD

On what planet.
Chargers have given chiefs many tough games in recent years. Next week will be over quick

 

[NineOneSeven]

Meltdown. Yikes. That’s brutal. The missed FG, the Bosa penalty. Meltdown.

 

[Newhouser]

Game turned when Herbert missed a wide open Allen in end zone of first half. Should have been 31-0, and a four score lead at half not a three score lead. 31-7 vs 27-7 is a big difference.

 

[jordville]

Wow, stunned to see the final score and Jags win. I watched the Cuse game and then checked in on the playoff game. After seeing the fourth interception and the Chargers up 27-0, I decided to watch some shows with the wife. I missed a big Jags second half and another Bolts fail. Did the coach get on the plane back to LA with the team?

Side note... enjoyed seeing Asante Samuel Jr. and his 3 picks. He has the same swag as his father, Mr. Pick 6, did... all the way down to the post pick pose and crossing of the arms, etc.

Also... happy for Dougie P. He was the right guy for that franchise. Pretty crazy stat...
"In 7 career playoff games, Pederson has been an underdog in 6 of them, improbably going 5-1 along the way. His teams are 6-0 against the spread in all of them."

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

So if Patrick mahommes Went to OSU, he’d have failed in the NFL? Not buying that lazy narrative

Facts are facts. History is history, and history shows OSU QB’s are ill-prepared for NFL success. (Actually, it’s pretty amazing, given how successful they are in college and how well they are rated after scouting, but the facts remain.)
I also understand that it is a correlation, not necessarily a causation. However, when you see Trevor Lawrence under Urban Meyer, as opposed to Doug Peterson, it gives a sense that Meyer really doesn’t understand QB play.

It’s interesting that your defense of OSU QBs is a fantasy where someone else went to OSU. I am sure the recent highly rated QBs from OSU were as highly rated as Mahomes coming out of HS, so theoretically, they should have reasonable NFL success.
If Mahomes had gone to OSU, he would not have been prepared in the same way he was at Texas Tech. He could have broken the mode, but history says unlikely.
Edit:
I admit that it is possible that the highly rated OSU guys are doomed to mediocrity due to being picked by perennial bad teams. After all, if the Jets or Bears had picked Mahomes, would he be Mahomes.
All of that being said, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Facts are facts. History is history, and history shows OSU QB’s are ill-prepared for NFL success. (Actually, it’s pretty amazing, given how successful they are in college and how well they are rated after scouting, but the facts remain.)
I also understand that it is a correlation, not necessarily a causation.) However, when you see Trevor Lawrence under Urban Meyer, as opposed to Doug Peterson, it gives a sense that Meyer really doesn’t understand QB play.
It’s interesting that your defense of OSU QBs is a fantasy where someone else went to OSU. I am sure the recent highly rated QBs from OSU were as highly rated as Mahomes coming out of HS, so theoretically, they should have reasonable NFL success.
If Mahomes had gone to OSU, he would not have been prepared in the same way he was at Texas Tech. He could have broken the mode, but history says unlikely.

I don’t have a defense of OSU Qbs. I have a defense of 1 OSU Qb. Those that came before him have nothing to do with him even a little bit. Fact is the previous guys weren’t the thrower this guy is. They just weren’t.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

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Game turned when Herbert missed a wide open Allen in end zone of first half. Should have been 31-0, and a four score lead at half not a three score lead. 31-7 vs 27-7 is a big difference.

if you can blow a 27 pt lead, you can blow a 31 pt lead

 

[ForCuseSake]

Props to all of you calling for the Chargers to gag when they were up 27.

I switched over to this game sometime between Sunshine’s 3rd & 4th pick.

Read a few posts in this thread insisting the Chargers would blow it and got a chuckle thinking no way they blow a 27 point lead in the playoffs.

Nodded off at halftime (getting too old for games I don’t care about that start after 8pm) only to wake up at 30-28.

Had to rub my eyes 3 times to make sure I was awake and not hallucinating.

 

[Newhouser]

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if you can blow a 27 pt lead, you can blow a 31 pt lead

True and deep insight. Doesn't change the fact Herbert hits that throw it's four scores or three TDs with 2 pt conversions starting the second half. Big difference

 

[bpo57]

Trevor Lawrence has never lost a football game on a Saturday whether it was high school, college or pro.

 

[bpo57]

Props to all of you calling for the Chargers to gag when they were up 27.

I switched over to this game sometime between Sunshine’s 3rd & 4th pick.

Read a few posts in this thread insisting the Chargers would blow it and got a chuckle thinking no way they blow a 27 point lead in the playoffs.

Nodded off at halftime (getting too old for games I don’t care about that start after 8pm) only to wake up at 30-28.

Had to rub my eyes 3 times to make sure I was awake and not hallucinating.

You'd give your left nut to be able to trade Dak for Sunshine.

 

[samspann1]

Trevor Lawrence has never lost a football game on a Saturday whether it was high school, college or pro.

Hopefully, that holds for next weekend.

 

[samspann1]

 

[OrangeDW]

I find football fans to be easily the worst of any sport to discuss the sport with. I don’t even tell people I like football anymore, because I don’t want to hear it. I think because there’s just so many football fans that you get a ton of people following who never played a sport in their lives, and don’t really understand much about them.

 

[syrBossHogg]

I find football fans to be easily the worst of any sport to discuss the sport with. I don’t even tell people I like football anymore, because I don’t want to hear it. I think because there’s just so many football fans that you get a ton of people following who never played a sport in their lives, and don’t really understand much about them.

I sort of blame sports media for this, I see Emmanuel Acho is going to spin some H0T Takes on the Chargers and Herbert after the game last night. Not to say Herbert is blameless for the collapse, but it's clear Acho wants to push a narrative and drive clicks/emotions rather than intelligent discussion.

 

[OrangeDW]

I sort of blame sports media for this, I see Emmanuel Acho is going to spin some H0T Takes on the Chargers and Herbert after the game last night. Not to say Herbert is blameless for the collapse, but it's clear Acho wants to push a narrative and drive clicks/emotions rather than intelligent discussion.

Sports media, gambling, fantasy football, social media - it all leads to a bunch of hot taking loud mouths who are emotionally invested but have little understanding of anything.

 

[bpo57]

I sort of blame sports media for this, I see Emmanuel Acho is going to spin some H0T Takes on the Chargers and Herbert after the game last night. Not to say Herbert is blameless for the collapse, but it's clear Acho wants to push a narrative and drive clicks/emotions rather than intelligent discussion.

ESPN was the pioneer of this approach and FOX Sports has been happy to imitate. It's nauseating. I rarely pay any attention to it. But it gainfully employs blowhards like Skip Bayless, Stephen A, Nick Wright and too many others too numerous to mention.

 

[syrBossHogg]

ESPN was the pioneer of this approach and FOX Sports has been happy to imitate. It's nauseating. I rarely pay any attention to it. But it gainfully employs blowhards like Skip Bayless, Stephen A, Nick Wright and too many others too numerous to mention.

The internet completely changed ESPN/sports media. Used to be purely highlights and solid analysis on every game. Now you can find every highlight happening live even without cable, so they have to fill the air time with stories/scandals/narratives.

 

[bpo57]

The internet completely changed ESPN. Used to be purely highlights and solid analysis on every game. Now you can find every highlight happening live even without cable, so they have to fill the air time with stories/scandals/narratives.

Totally agree. It often seems to cater to the marginal sports fan.

 

[BuffOrange]

Not to be too devils advocate as I don't totally disagree but you can choose who to follow. There's some cool film breakdowns on Twitter and good data from Kevin Cole and the like. I wouldn't know who Nick Wright is if it wasn't for other Bills fans online complaining; does anyone actually watch whatever crap show he's on (?) I couldn't imagine unless I'm getting paid for it.

 

[bpo57]

No doubt you can choose whom to follow. I pay little attention to most of these gasbags but as a hard core sports fan it's hard not to be aware of them. Wright is on FOX Sports tv and radio. I drive an hour each way to work so I encounter many of these fools on satellite radio. I'm sure Bills fans are well aware of some of them. There is a whole cottage industry of Josh Allen haters out there with Wright, Dominique Foxworth, Bomani Jones and a few others leading the charge.

 

[BuffOrange]

No doubt you can choose whom to follow. I pay little attention to most of these gasbags but as a hard core sports fan it's hard not to be aware of them. Wright is on FOX Sports tv and radio. I drive an hour each way to work so I encounter many of these fools on satellite radio. I'm sure Bills fans are well aware of some of them. There is a whole cottage industry of Josh Allen haters out there with Wright, Dominique Foxworth, Bomani Jones and a few others leading the charge.

Podcasts are your friend.
I'm a degen gambler though so that helps expand the options.

Loved the SVP tweet at Wright after the last Mia-Buff game "Phone die?".

 

[bpo57]

Podcasts are your friend.
I'm a degen gambler though so that helps expand the options.

Loved the SVP tweet at Wright after the last Mia-Buff game "Phone die?".

Yeah I listen to VSIN and Sports Grid for the gambling and watch the Daily Wager on occasion as well.

 

[ForCuseSake]

You'd give your left nut to be able to trade Dak for Sunshine.

I’d trade Dak for a ham sandwich.

But I’d trade my left nut for new ownership before QB.

 

[Guinness]

Thoughts after 17 games?

49ers are legit but it feels like folks are discounting the Birds because of the last three games when Hurts and Lane Johnson were not playing or not at full tilt. Both guys are practicing this week and will definitely play next week. Also not sure Brock Purdy will be able to waltz into the Linc for the W without facing a serious challenge. Of course this assumes both teams get that far, by no means a foregone conclusion.

Yup, I agree with that.

TB12 is TB12 , and both Dallas and the Vikings are capable of a run. Very possible 1 of the top 2 seeds doesn't make the championship game.