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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4321063, member: 1969"] Should we really be surprised that the PGA has fell to shady characters who attack with money? This is not a defence of LIV at all. At all! And as some have cited it is a shame since the tour has its youngest deepest fields in a while and it is entertaining for the larger (non-major) events. And we as fans are losing some of that. But it shouldn't be that surprising to see the PGA lose some members to LIV. It was always about money for many on the tour. Without getting into politics, it is well known that a fair amount of the tour cites "taxes" as their political motivation. The PGA tour itself is a "charity", which initially was created in the 1970's purely to avoid federal and local taxes and make more money for its members. At the end of 2019 per published financials the PGA tour had net assets of $1.1 billion dollars and cash / investments of nearly $3 billon-- and yet made less than $50 million of charitable donations in 2019. I won't get too much more into the charity side, because there is some merit to its providing a platform to local charities which generate money at each event (each event is a separate charity) - but to be fair the majority of the charitable effort comes from local charities and probably about a thousand volunteers at each event. Yet the PGA (and its corporate sponsor) have no problem going on TV probably taking more credit than they deserve. Look at the 2 golfers that have dominated the sport for the last 25 years. Phil Mickelson is a phony douchebag. I really like Tiger as a golfer, but as a person he is ornery at best. Thankfully the top face of golf have been changing the last 8-10 years. The signature golf event is the Masters - and there is no more fake sanctimonious organization that I am aware of. In 1984 (1984!) this organization was still mandating that all caddies had to be black. And I love the Masters event - just have to ignore some stuff. At the end of the day its not a shock to me that some members of this sport that have got involved in something so sh----. The LIV backers are certainly much more shady then the PGA. And the PGA for almost all tournaments will be a more entertaining product. No doubt about that. But the tour was susceptible to lose some people to this sh-- because of the established mentality of many involved with or on the tour. [/QUOTE]

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