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Message: [QUOTE="ivorytower, post: 4136221, member: 6888"] Frosh are frosh unless they are one of the special ones ie ONeill, Hiltz, Kavanaugh .You see many if not most top 20- 100 talents at other ACC teams not seeing field in 1st year or two because ACC play is quite a jump from even the best h.s. play At UVA #1 Shellenberger had to redshirt and top ranked recruits such as Dickson, Garno,, Conner were years in before being deemed ready to see some field. That team is now loaded with experienced first time mid starters. Cuse is a program that should be competitive every year. may not be as deep as others so more opportunity may present but there was a absence of buzz in fall outside dm Rice . No Hiltz or Trimboli that can seamlessly be plugged in. Assuming Buttermore is healthy , he. Quinn,4th yr Fioriniare and perhaps Cook are most likely at start to fill mid rotation with a sprinkling of some youngsters mentioned . Hope Corsi gets good audition in scrimmages. [/QUOTE]