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Message: [QUOTE="nyclax, post: 4532584, member: 8261"] i mean, they were 4-10 overall and 1-5 in the ACC last year. they're the "bottom feeders" until they prove they're not. doesn't mean they're destined to be that again but it's a reasonable take at this point to say cuse and unc will be fighting for spots #4 and #5 in the ACC again. UVA, ND, and Duke will all be strong again, especially those first two. maybe they can slip past Duke to be #3 but that's a big if. UNC is a total question mark with all their personnel changes and the Orange are still in all likelihood a year or two away from returning to the top half of the league given all the young faces and the issues on D [/QUOTE]