2024-25 NBA Season

[Eric15]

I haven't watched an NBA ASG for a while. Has it been like this for a while with endless stuff other than the lackluster game itself? It is hard to watch, and I'm tapping out -- going to clean my bathroom and kitchen instead. while I'm stuck playing this free ticket to a $10 poker game that apparently lasts forever.

It seems to be getting worse. I feel like the marketing strategy of the NBA is “try way too hard.” Everything from the ASG, the bizarre courts, each time having a dozen jersey combos, etc.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Draymond rating the format a 0 on a scale of 1-10 is the highlight easily.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

The amount of unnecessary filler before the NBA all-star game is physically exhausting. Just play the game. Kevin Hart doesn’t need to be on a microphone for any reason.

God, so glad to see someone else say this. Exhausting is exactly right. I came to ask who actually watches all this pre- stuff. Same with the Super Bowl. Hours and hours of hype, moronic rapping and posing, meaningless blather….

But, especially all star games. I don’t understand this four team thing, but just the play in general is sooo boring without actual defense/competition. I turned it on for two minutes, and just couldn’t handle any more.

The Mac McLung dunks, though…. I just watched the YouTube highlights of only him…. Insane.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Draymond rating the format a 0 on a scale of 1-10 is the highlight easily.

Draymond sucks in his own ways.

 

[kirbivore]

Spurs announcing Wemby with blood clot in shoulder and to be out for season. Props to being creative on the fake injury to shut him down and tank for better draft assets

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Wemby out for rest of the year with right arm blood clot.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I haven't watched an NBA ASG for a while. Has it been like this for a while with endless stuff other than the lackluster game itself? It is hard to watch, and I'm tapping out -- going to clean my bathroom and kitchen instead. while I'm stuck playing this free ticket to a $10 poker game that apparently lasts forever.

It wasn’t always like this.

 

[Eric15]

With Wemby out, watch the Spurs tank, get Cooper Flagg and then they’re set for the next decade. Similar to David Robinson getting injured in 1997 which was literally the greatest thing to ever happen to the Spurs because it led to Tim Duncan.

 

[dwilmont44]

Makes me sad how much Knicks fans hate Melo

 

[shandeezy7]

Makes me sad how much Knicks fans hate Melo

Really? I must miss a lot of that. I mostly see Knicks fans love Melo and recognize that the front office was a joke building a team around him.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Really? I must miss a lot of that. I mostly see Knicks fans love Melo and recognize that the front office was a joke building a team around him.

Didn’t help how much they had to trade to get him there. All time move when he could have just waited and signed as a FA. I know. Sacrilege. Doesn’t mean Dolan isn’t a grade A dufus

 

[shandeezy7]

Didn’t help how much they had to trade to get him there. All time move when he could have just waited and signed as a FA. I know. Sacrilege. Doesn’t mean Dolan isn’t a grade A dufus

Yeah although the Knicks didn't necessarily have to make the trade. Melo wanted the extra year of guaranteed money that he couldn't get through free agency, so that's why he forced a trade. The Knicks could have also bet that either no one else would trade for him or that he really wanted to be a Knick and they could still sign with them in the offseason even without a trade.

In hindsight, the assets they gave up to get Melo really weren't all that great. The biggest piece probably ended up being the pick swap that landed Jamal Murray with the Nuggets, but Melo's time with NY was coming to an end by then anyway. The front office failed spectacularly with surrounding Melo with talent. Some of the lineups they ran out there during his tenure were a complete and utter joke.

 

[Knicks411]

I think another factor with Melo was he wanted to get traded and extended before the new CBA came in the next summer in case he couldn't get as much money.

They actually had a pretty decent front offic and put together a solid team to start. Then they fired Glen Grunwald and things went really downhill.

 

[shandeezy7]

I think another factor with Melo was he wanted to get traded and extended before the new CBA came in the next summer in case he couldn't get as much money.

They actually had a pretty decent front offic and put together a solid team to start. Then they fired Glen Grunwald and things went really downhill.

Yeah they were the 2 seed in his second full season in NY and then the wheels completely fell off. The real criminal trade wasn't the Melo one. It was the Bargnani one.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Yeah although the Knicks didn't necessarily have to make the trade. Melo wanted the extra year of guaranteed money that he couldn't get through free agency, so that's why he forced a trade. The Knicks could have also bet that either no one else would trade for him or that he really wanted to be a Knick and they could still sign with them in the offseason even without a trade.

In hindsight, the assets they gave up to get Melo really weren't all that great. The biggest piece probably ended up being the pick swap that landed Jamal Murray with the Nuggets, but Melo's time with NY was coming to an end by then anyway. The front office failed spectacularly with surrounding Melo with talent. Some of the lineups they ran out there during his tenure were a complete and utter joke.

It’s not necessarily the assets given up not being huge losses themselves, it’s the opportunity cost of what you could have gotten for them in other deals had you not had to use them all in one shot

 

[jncuse]

Question - Would the Knicks have had enough cap space to outright sign Anthony as a free agent that summer?

Seems like may have still needed to do some sign and trade in the offseason with the Nuggets to get the deal done, so some of those assets would have still been lost.

 

[jncuse]

Yeah they were the 2 seed in his second full season in NY and then the wheels completely fell off. The real criminal trade wasn't the Melo one. It was the Bargnani one.

Thank you for taking that bum Bargnani from us.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Somewhere Hak is doubled over from laughter.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

So, what’s wrong with the Knicks right now?

 

[Cusefan0307]

So, what’s wrong with the Knicks right now?

They aren’t as good as Boston or Cleveland. They lack some of the grit they had last year.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

They aren’t as good as Boston or Cleveland. They lack some of the grit they had last year.

Not as good, sure, but this week the difference is much greater than I would expect.

Grit? Divincenzo? Hartenstein?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Not as good, sure, but this week the difference is much greater than I would expect.

Grit? Divincenzo? Hartenstein?

Defense has taken a step back. Having Towns at the 5 and losing Divencenzo is a part of that. The bench is incredibly weak as well.

 

[shandeezy7]

Not as good, sure, but this week the difference is much greater than I would expect.

Grit? Divincenzo? Hartenstein?

Idk is it really that different? They’re 0-5 against the Celtics and Cavs with the average margin of defeat over 20 points. They haven’t been close. Unfortunately, their ceiling this year appears to be second round of the playoffs.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Idk is it really that different? They’re 0-5 against the Celtics and Cavs with the average margin of defeat over 20 points. They haven’t been close. Unfortunately, their ceiling this year appears to be second round of the playoffs.

That’s what I was trying to say—they’re losing by big margins to those two teams, and the difference between the Knicks to the Celtics/Cavs level is greater than I would have expected.

 

[Oakland]

I'm a fair weather San Francisco fan, so I hadn't watched the Warriors much until they acquired Jimmy Butler. Since he is apparently a big star (superstar???), I wanted to see how he helped the Warriors who were having lots of trouble keeping their record above 500. I vaguely remember watching him play against SU way back in the BEC (he is one of the few active links back to those days).

Its been interesting. If I didn't know anything, and didn't listen to the announcers, it would have taken me a long time to realize that he is a star, because he is not the focus of the team, he doesn't generate huge stats, and just doesn't stand out. What I have come to realize, watching him the last 4 games, is that he is simply good at everything: shooting, handle, awareness, poise, toughness, getting a basket when the team needs it, and making teammates better. He also has a lot of Judah Mintz in his ability to drive and draw fouls and he is a very good FT shooter. I don't like that he pushes off defenders with his off arm, but this is just accepted in the NBA today and many do it. Anyways, interesting to see that he has made the Warriors much, much better.

Just today, I saw that he is getting $48 million a year from the Warriors - wow!!!!