2024 Toronto Blue Jays Season

[STEVEHOLT]

" Are they lacking some important skill that enables other teams to come back from three run deficits?"
I don't know and I don't care. Fact is they've lost every game since July 2023 in that situation, and nobody else has. Why?
I
Dont
Care.

I only care that it is. Im not saying its predictive going forward of jack squat.
To answer your condescending "is it important to you and your simple caveman way of statistical interpretation vs my high brow intellectually superior understanding of data"

YES. its important to me because im a fan of the team and they LOST all those games. See i am a fan of a team. The results are what Im interested in. Not the "expected" results.

 

[donniesyracuse]

" Are they lacking some important skill that enables other teams to come back from three run deficits?"
I don't know and I don't care. Fact is they've lost every game since July 2023 in that situation, and nobody else has. Why?
I
Dont
Care.

I only care that it is. Im not saying its predictive going forward of jack squat.
To answer your condescending "is it important to you and your simple caveman way of statistical interpretation vs my high brow intellectually superior understanding of data"

YES. its important to me because im a fan of the team and they LOST all those games. See i am a fan of a team. The results are what Im interested in. Not the "expected" results.

I am glad we got to the bottom of this.

 

[jncuse]

Jays have a bad bullpen this year / right now in part due to injuries and players performing well below norms (Mayza, Swanson in particular)
Jays have no power
Jays are hitting .199 with RISP
Jays act deflated and show bad body language when they fall behind.

Its not a recipe for coming from behind (in any situation)

 

[donniesyracuse]

Here are you WAR leaders:

#	Name	Team	PA	IP	Bat WAR	Pit WAR	Total WAR
1	Daulton Varsho	TOR	120		1.5		1.5
2	Yusei Kikuchi	TOR		39.2	0.0	1.3	1.3
3	Danny Jansen	TOR	44		0.9		0.9
4	Davis Schneider	TOR	86		0.6		0.6
5	Ernie Clement	TOR	65		0.5		0.5
6	José Berríos	TOR		43.2	0.0	0.5	0.5
7	Isiah Kiner-Falefa	TOR	102	2.0	0.5	0.0	0.5
8	Alejandro Kirk	TOR	82		0.5		0.5
9	Justin Turner	TOR	122		0.5		0.5
10	Kevin Gausman	TOR		33.1	0.0	0.4	0.4
11	Vladimir Guerrero Jr.	TOR	154		0.4		0.4
12	Cavan Biggio	TOR	93		0.3		0.3
13	Yimi García	TOR		13.1	0.0	0.3	0.3
14	George Springer	TOR	147		0.1		0.1
15	Yariel Rodriguez	TOR		15.1	0.0	0.1	0.1
16	Kevin Kiermaier	TOR	66		0.1		0.1
17	Brendon Little	TOR		3.1	0.0	0.1	0.1
18	Zach Pop	TOR		2.2	0.0	0.0	0.0
19	Chris Bassitt	TOR		36.1	0.0	0.0	0.0
20	Mitch White	TOR		10.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
21	Nate Pearson	TOR		12.1	0.0	0.0	0.0
22	Jordan Romano	TOR		6.2	0.0	0.0	0.0
23	Brian Serven	TOR	10		-0.1		-0.1
24	Chad Green	TOR		7.2	0.0	-0.1	-0.1
25	Wes Parsons	TOR		5.0	0.0	-0.1	-0.1
26	Trevor Richards	TOR		15.2	0.0	-0.1	-0.1
27	Tim Mayza	TOR		11.2	0.0	-0.2	-0.2
28	Paolo Espino	TOR		4.2	0.0	-0.2	-0.2
29	Bowden Francis	TOR		14.2	0.0	-0.2	-0.2
30	Alek Manoah	TOR		4.0	0.0	-0.2	-0.2
31	Daniel Vogelbach	TOR	33		-0.3		-0.3
32	Bo Bichette	TOR	134		-0.3		-0.3
33	Génesis Cabrera	TOR		13.0	0.0	-0.4	-0.4
34	Addison Barger	TOR	18		-0.4		-0.4
35	Erik Swanson	TOR		6.0	0.0	-0.5	-0.5

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I’m impressed. Manoah managed an entire 2/10 of a negative WAR in a meager few innings

 

[jncuse]

And what do you know, Jays are down 3-0 tonight.

Do they buck the trend.
No chance.

 

[phillydad]

And what do you know, Jays are down 3-0 tonight.

Do they buck the trend.
No chance.

8-0

 

[STEVEHOLT]

And what do you know, Jays are down 3-0 tonight.

Do they buck the trend.
No chance.

Could see this one coming . Berrios was due for a correction given his FIP / ERA discrepancy as predicted in this text convo with a famous Syracusefan poster

 

[jncuse]

jays are the only team in mlb to not win a single game in which they ever trailed by 3 runs or more since all-star break 2023.

Meanwhile they blew two games with a 3 and 5 run lead to the Nats this weekend .

The streak is finally over.
Jays come back from a 6 run deficit (7-1) in the early innings, and win 10-8.

I didn't think this offence was capable of outscoring a team with double digits, but somehow it did it (one time). At least Vlad is starting to hit (for average anyway) the last 10 games or so.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

The streak is finally over.
Jays come back from a 6 run deficit (7-1) in the early innings, and win 10-8.

I didn't think this offence was capable of outscoring a team with double digits, but somehow it did it (one time). At least Vlad is starting to hit (for average anyway) the last 10 games or so.

And they crash back to earth with 2 total hits vs a stiff. They stuck springer right back into the lead off spot like the morons they are

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Anyone see the 7 1/3 PERFECT innings from a pitcher with an ERA over 5 vs our beloved impotents?

 

[jncuse]

Nothing like the "state of the team" presser by the Jays GM being done on a Saturday Morning of a long weekend (in Canada)... 5 hours before game time. What a spineless clown.

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[STEVEHOLT]

Manoah is a solitary shining bright light in a season of feces

 

[STEVEHOLT]

THE HOME RUN JACKET IS BACK

 

[jncuse]

THE HOME RUN JACKET IS BACK

Unfortunately we don't hit HR's anymore.

 

[jncuse]

Manoah is a solitary shining bright light in a season of feces

I will also give Manoah credit for losing a significant amount of weight between September of last year to now. Which probably helps him in the pitch clock era. This isn't the team where individual accountability over your weight typically exists

I'm hoping the weight loss was the reason he struggled mechanically in the minors to start the year - it does require adjustments And that now he has totally figured it out.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Unfortunately we don't hit HR's anymore.

3 HR tonight. obviously they didnt feel like hitting them without the jacket reward.

 

[jncuse]

New week, new historic streak for offensive incompetence for the Jays.

Jays have now went 29 games without scoring in the first inning. A feat not accomplished since the 70s if I remember correctly from yesterdays broadcast.

 

[jncuse]

New week, new historic streak for offensive incompetence for the Jays.

Jays have now went 29 games without scoring in the first inning. A feat not accomplished since the 70s if I remember correctly from yesterdays broadcast.

Update on this. Tonight the streak was extended to 29 games, which is the second longest of ALL-TIME.

It is second all time, only behind the 31 games achieved by some team in 1937.
So this is the longest period of futility in 87 years... and by Sunday could be tied for the longest ever.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

New week, new historic streak for offensive incompetence for the Jays.

Jays have now went 29 games without scoring in the first inning. A feat not accomplished since the 70s if I remember correctly from yesterdays broadcast.

They finally broke the spell today. I have no idea how this team is only 2 games under

 

[jncuse]

Got within 1 game of .500 (somehow) at the end of last week.

5 straight losses, and now our top offensive prospect dinged with a failed steroid test, after "claiming" to be using fertility drugs.

Going great!

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Got within 1 game of .500 (somehow) at the end of last week.

5 straight losses, and now our top offensive prospect dinged with a failed steroid test, after "claiming" to be using fertility drugs.

Going great!

BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND

 

[jncuse]

Ultimate baseball is strange and random stat.

In the first 33 games of the season, the Blue Jays scored ZERO runs in the first inning.
In the last 42 games of this season, the Blue Jays scored 48 runs in the first inning.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Ultimate baseball is strange and random stat.

In the first 33 games of the season, the Blue Jays scored ZERO runs in the first inning.
In the last 42 games of this season, the Blue Jays scored 48 runs in the first inning.

And the increase in early scoring has coincided with giving up tons of late runs ! Net = still are bad !

 

[orangenauburn]

And the increase in early scoring has coincided with giving up tons of late runs ! Net = still are bad !

Such a disappointing team