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2025-26 Basketball Schedule

Late November into early December is an incredible test for this team. Kansas, Houston, one more quality team, and then Tennessee in a span of a little over a week is just bonkers. I can't remember a tougher week of basketball that we've ever had.
 
Late November into early December is an incredible test for this team. Kansas, Houston, one more quality team, and then Tennessee in a span of a little over a week is just bonkers. I can't remember a tougher week of basketball that we've ever had.
Yes, and hopefully doesn't define the season. I could probably be ok with 0-4 if the team doesn't back down and are in competitive games in the under 4 timeout. Don't even think how ugly it will be if they are blowouts.
 
Yes, and hopefully doesn't define the season. I could probably be ok with 0-4 if the team doesn't back down and are in competitive games in the under 4 timeout. Don't even think how ugly it will be if they are blowouts.
I'm not trying to be edgy or anything but if we go 0-4 in that stretch I would be very disappointed. I think we have the talent/roster this year to compete. And if we were to get blown out in all four, Red's seat should be hotter than the surface of the sun.
 
I'm not trying to be edgy or anything but if we go 0-4 in that stretch I would be very disappointed. I think we have the talent/roster this year to compete. And if we were to get blown out in all four, Red's seat should be hotter than the surface of the sun.
Understandable. But, it's a long season with a ton of new pieces. Last season we knew off the bat that it was going to be ugly. And hopefully there is a big difference between having a pulse and being on life support.
 
Understandable. But, it's a long season with a ton of new pieces. Last season we knew off the bat that it was going to be ugly. And hopefully there is a big difference between having a pulse and being on life support.
This is true for many teams, and will be true most seasons moving forward. It's not an excuse.
 
I haven't been to a WBB game in years, but for LAX they don't open up the 300 level (unless it's a huge game against Hop or an ACC team).

For WLAX they don't even let anyone sit on the North side. Seating is only permitted on the team bench side.

For MBB, you need everything open, both upstairs and downstairs. More ushers, more security, more concession stands, more cleaning crew afterwards...
Yes and they pay for police coverage for traffic control, more parking attendants plus basketball games mainly being in winter, keeping the walkways, parking lots, outdoor stairs etc clear of snow and ice has to cost a pretty penny too.
 
This is true for many teams, and will be true most seasons moving forward. It's not an excuse.
Not saying it as an excuse. Like I said in my first post, I want these guys to be competitive in those four games in the under 4 timeout. We need to see they have a pulse.

But, Cuse has to come along a lot further than those other programs. And can Red and staff coach as well as those HOF type coaches that he will be coaching against.
 
The quad 4 blowouts are a necessary part of you want to dance these days

Yeah but you have to beat them by 20 to earn points in the system and not bring down the rating of the entire conference. That, actually, is what has sunk the ACC in the last few years, not blowing out the cupcakes.
 
Yeah but you have to beat them by 20 to earn points in the system and not bring down the rating of the entire conference. That, actually, is what has sunk the ACC in the last few years, not blowing out the cupcakes.

Well then let’s call them quad 5 or quad 6 for arguments sake. The bottom of the entire country vs upper tier quad 4 programs using the existing measurements. Those upper tier tweeners have resulted in closer matchups that offer zero benefit. These games should be 20 point wins and up with relative ease just being the more talented and athletic team on the floor with little impact from who is coaching them.
 
Yeah but you have to beat them by 20 to earn points in the system and not bring down the rating of the entire conference. That, actually, is what has sunk the ACC in the last few years, not blowing out the cupcakes.
The problem is that ACC teams weren’t playing enough cupcakes. They were playing too many decent mid majors and eking out wins or losing to them. They need to do what the Big 12 and SEC have been doing. Playing sub-200 (real) cupcakes and blowing them out by 20+. That boosts their non conference NET ratings.
 
The problem is that ACC teams weren’t playing enough cupcakes. They were playing too many decent mid majors and eking out wins or losing to them. They need to do what the Big 12 and SEC have been doing. Playing sub-200 (real) cupcakes and blowing them out by 20+. That boosts their non conference NET ratings.
The NCAA is eventually going to have to change the formula for the NET ratings. Playing more cupcakes and blowing them out can't help any team's home attendance. Or TV ratings. But that's the game that has to be played now. Seems idiotic.
 
The NCAA is eventually going to have to change the formula for the NET ratings. Playing more cupcakes and blowing them out can't help any team's home attendance. Or TV ratings. But that's the game that has to be played now. Seems idiotic.

It’s pathetic they didn’t test out scenarios to get this… or maybe they did and were fine it who knows.

They need to come up with something like Sagarin but certify each rating that is used to get a “ranking”. Then produce records against the various quadrants as an additional metric.
 
It's a simple fix... Don't count margin of victory past a certain point. Maybe anything past 10 points is weighted by half and anything above 20 is ignored.

Beating a school ranked 200 by 10 becomes more valuable than beating team 300 by 40. Right now it's the opposite, since margin of victory is so important.

It's kind of gross that the NCAA decided to make poor sportsmanship an integral part of their sport.
 
It's a simple fix... Don't count margin of victory past a certain point. Maybe anything past 10 points is weighted by half and anything above 20 is ignored.

Beating a school ranked 200 by 10 becomes more valuable than beating team 300 by 40. Right now it's the opposite, since margin of victory is so important.

It's kind of gross that the NCAA decided to make poor sportsmanship an integral part of their sport.

My understanding is 10 is the limit/metric as I understand it but it rounds down so many hit that 10 mark with many teams moving up and down between 9 and 10 as it averages out.

So for instance if you have a MOV of 9.5 and then win a few games by 30, over a 31 game season you will see a move to being at 10 which if weighted improperly will jump you in the rankings. All the same if you win by 40 8 times then you can no longer have to worry about having a MOV value of less or much less than 10 throughout the year or just below at worst.

So using efficiency metrics and MOV can duplicate the weighting of large wins. Thus getting rid of it or using a Sagarin like approach makes more sense to get a comprehensive ranking that helps avoid bias.
 
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