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OburgOrange said:
Mariner was just taking a page out of the Mats Sundin playbook
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The Muskoka Five!

I don't remember anything similar for such a large number of players since then. Guys have waived no trade clauses at the deadline in their last year. But those guys all refused.

Although I do believe at the time some were overstating what the Leafs could get for a pending 37 year old free agent in Sundn. They would have been able to get a late first and a few other goodies, but it wasn't going to be the multiple assets some thought they were going to get. Trading him would have help the franchise but wasn't going to alter it massively either.

Sundin was good that year - but I'm thinking returns like Flyers and Bruins got for Giroux and Marchand in recent years might have been his value. A first between #20-#30 and second rounder.
 
STEVEHOLT said:
I think Buffalo and Montreal have more talent than the Bruins, particularly on the back end. I think Boston will eventually fall on the outside looking in. And they will have the leafs #1 pick and Frasor Minten to show for the corpse of 6-5” soft as charmin Brandon Carlo
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Nah. They weren’t booing him because he left the leafs. He was booed because he still has the leafs stink on him.
 
Habs took over the Sabre's arena Sat night. Lower bowl was 75% red. Buffalo fans had a hard time drowning out the Ole Ole and lets go Habs cheers. I imagine the STH sold those tickets in the fall thinking they would not be competitive and no way to turn back that clock now.

We bought our tickets Xmas break for under $70 and they were 2-3x times that in the upperdeck for the game. Sold out and fun game.

Going thru the food I can't believe SU can't get some of those options in the Dome.

The Beef on Wick and the Walking Tacos were good and don't require special grills. Multiple Ice cream stations. Pizza that was hot. Dogs that were grilled hot and fresh rolls.

SU cant get a sandwhich station
Milk Shakes
Chill cheese burgers

sabres food items
 
jncuse said:
Time is a bit on their side for a Matthews deal as he is signed through the end of the 2028 season -- and no need to tank as they don't have picks.

He has not been at a "superstar level" in 2025 and especially in 2026. Do you wait for him to bounce back to try to get more value next year?

He also has a superstar price tag at $13.5 million, but has not played as a superstar for the last 2 years. (although that is becoming less "high" as the cap goes up). Another reason to wait for a year perhaps.

That being said if his 2027 is like his 2026, the allure of his elite seasons from 2022 and 2024 will be even further away and his value goes down.

I think the Leafs should be open to trading anybody. I'm not sure, but I'd imagine he has a no trade clause as well that will hurt his return. Marner really screwed the Leafs with his.
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I don’t think you trade Matthews to tank. You make a legit , good hockey trade. You trade him to get multiple pieces that will usher in a new era. You don’t trade him necessarily at the deadline but in the offseason when as many teams as possible can get in the mix. You try and get back a combination of picks, prospects , and young current roster players. You get more back for him if you trade him with more years left on his deal. As far as the no trade, there are plenty of places he will agree to go to in order to get out of the fishbowl.
 
STEVEHOLT said:
I don’t think you trade Matthews to tank. You make a legit , good hockey trade. You trade him to get multiple pieces that will usher in a new era. You don’t trade him necessarily at the deadline but in the offseason when as many teams as possible can get in the mix. You try and get back a combination of picks, prospects , and young current roster players. You get more back for him if you trade him with more years left on his deal. As far as the no trade, there are plenty of places he will agree to go to in order to get out of the fishbowl.
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Apparently he wants to stay. I read it on the internet
 
OburgOrange said:
Apparently he wants to stay. I read it on the internet
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It was reported by Elliott Friedman, who is pretty credible.

But things can always change quickly over an offseason, especially if they miss the playoffs.

The value on the NTC guys always depends on how many teams they are willing to move to. If they give you only one option, you get some value but your cents on the dollar is reduced significatly,
 
STEVEHOLT said:
I don’t think you trade Matthews to tank. You make a legit , good hockey trade. You trade him to get multiple pieces that will usher in a new era. You don’t trade him necessarily at the deadline but in the offseason when as many teams as possible can get in the mix. You try and get back a combination of picks, prospects , and young current roster players. You get more back for him if you trade him with more years left on his deal. As far as the no trade, there are plenty of places he will agree to go to in order to get out of the fishbowl.
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Agreed that its done to get the best trade possible which involves young players and picks.

But the side benefit of the sedeal is that your team will tend to regress a bit for a few years when you do the sale of established players, which will help with your draft pick # in those years. For the Leafs that is not a consideration for a few years.
 
If a Leaf did this, they would be suspended 10 games. Panthers? Not even illegal

 
Hey you hockey fans out there! Tonight, I went to my first hockey game in person since the Rangers beat the Canucks in the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals.

Tonight I went to the Syracuse Crunch game for a business networking event, standing in a cordoned off area behind one of the goals, with catering, beverages and a bunch of people from the INSPYRE Innovation Hub by CenterState.

In the wildest coincidence, my old law school friend George McPhee - Hobey Baker Award winner (college hockey's version of the Heisman Trophy), New York Rangers legend, Vancouver assistant GM, and Washington Caps GM - was being honored as an inductee into the Syracuse Hockey Hall of Fame.

Literally the last time I saw George was during the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals, when a group of about 8 to 10 ten of our old law school friends went out to dinner on the off night between games at the Garden.

He was always a classy guy, almost like a Victorian gentleman.

Quite a contrast from his playing persona, where he was quite known for mixing it up in the corners. As I recall, he and Rick Tocchet of the Flyers dropped the gloves on quite a few occasions!

But he was like a guy from another era in person.

Such a great guy, so amazing to see him!
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3-0 since getting ESPN+ all in regulation. It's unbelievable how little breathing room the Sabres have with the run they're on. If Buffalo teams didn't have bad luck they'd have none at all.
 
Parayko not willing to waive NMC to go to Buffalo, which is his right and I will not criticize it. But someone screwed up bad here - the full deal details should have never been leaked out. Whether it was accidentally leaked, or intentionally leaked to put pressure on Parayko, this deal should not have got out there.

As for the initial deal, it was a heavy price to pay for Buffalo (1st round + Mrtka (9th pick overall last summer). Not sure if their scouts think Mrtka is not quite worth that anymore. But they have enough youth I suppose on the their team and are pushing in now. So it was justifiable.

With those assets Buffalo could have been in play for Mackenzie Weegar, but now he is off the market, as they were waiting for this deal to resolve.

There are other lesser D out there which I assume Buffalo will go for. (such as former Sabre Ristolainen). But Sabres GM may have lost some leverage by showing that they are willing to pay premium.
 
jncuse said:
Parayko not willing to waive NMC to go to Buffalo, which is his right and I will not criticize it. But someone screwed up bad here - the full deal details should have never been leaked out. Whether it was accidentally leaked, or intentionally leaked to put pressure on Parayko, this deal should not have got out there.

As for the initial deal, it was a heavy price to pay for Buffalo (1st round + Mrtka (9th pick overall last summer). Not sure if their scouts think Mrtka is not quite worth that anymore. But they have enough youth I suppose on the their team and are pushing in now. So it was justifiable.

With those assets Buffalo could have been in play for Mackenzie Weegar, but now he is off the market, as they were waiting for this deal to resolve.

There are other lesser D out there which I assume Buffalo will go for. (such as former Sabre Ristolainen). But Sabres GM may have lost some leverage by showing that they are willing to pay premium.
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I agree the details shouldn’t have leaked - but this now feels like standard practice for teams who have a player invoke their NMC. The same thing happened with the Devils and Palat in January, between leaking it and not dressing him for a few games - the Devils got him to accept a trade to the Islanders.

I’m not sure what the solution is, but I would think the players association is trying to figure out options for the next negotiation. An occasional “accidental” leak is one thing - this happens so regularly that I think it’s now an accepted business practice.
 
jncuse said:
Parayko not willing to waive NMC to go to Buffalo, which is his right and I will not criticize it. But someone screwed up bad here - the full deal details should have never been leaked out. Whether it was accidentally leaked, or intentionally leaked to put pressure on Parayko, this deal should not have got out there.

As for the initial deal, it was a heavy price to pay for Buffalo (1st round + Mrtka (9th pick overall last summer). Not sure if their scouts think Mrtka is not quite worth that anymore. But they have enough youth I suppose on the their team and are pushing in now. So it was justifiable.

With those assets Buffalo could have been in play for Mackenzie Weegar, but now he is off the market, as they were waiting for this deal to resolve.

There are other lesser D out there which I assume Buffalo will go for. (such as former Sabre Ristolainen). But Sabres GM may have lost some leverage by showing that they are willing to pay premium.
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Im surprised Myers waived his no trade . By all accounts he and his family loved it in BC and although he does have some Texas roots, I’d have told the Canucks to piss off. I’m not going anywhere
 
STEVEHOLT said:
Im surprised Myers waived his no trade . By all accounts he and his family loved it in BC and although he does have some Texas roots, I’d have told the Canucks to piss off. I’m not going anywhere
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2 factors probably played into Myers decision, although would have respected his rights to say no.
#1) Taxes -- probably saving somewhere between 10-15% playing in Texas next year.
#2) Going to a winner... and getting out of a market that is losing (and In Canada that often means more pressure and drama) Although I suppose there would be little pressure in Vancouver next year.

But Parayko and Myers are 2 cases which info got out there before a NMC was waived. And that is a problem.
Its either front offices being bleep-holes to put pressure on players... or perhaps just a loose lipped staff member conversing with insiders.
 
Sabres are at 97.3% chance of making the playoffs on Moneypuck. Six straight wins really got them to a solid spot.
 
Cusefan95 said:
I agree the details shouldn’t have leaked - but this now feels like standard practice for teams who have a player invoke their NMC. The same thing happened with the Devils and Palat in January, between leaking it and not dressing him for a few games - the Devils got him to accept a trade to the Islanders.

I’m not sure what the solution is, but I would think the players association is trying to figure out options for the next negotiation. An occasional “accidental” leak is one thing - this happens so regularly that I think it’s now an accepted business practice.
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There was that Ottawa player a few years ago who had a no trade and yet he got traded to a team on his no trade list . How does that happen
 
STEVEHOLT said:
There was that Ottawa player a few years ago who had a no trade and yet he got traded to a team on his no trade list . How does that happen
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Thats not quite accurate in all the details. The Sens traded Evgenii Dadonov to Vegas, who were not on his no trade list. However - they did not disclose to Vegas an accurate list. Vegas then tried to trade him to the Ducks roughly a year later, but the Ducks were on his no trade list. The NHL invalidated the Vegas trade to the Ducks and stripped the Sens of their first round pick.
 
Sabres playing for First place tonight. Too late to jump on the odds train for most though.
 
1st 10 minutes of Sabres lighting went into a Time Machine back to the 70s
 

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