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Message: [QUOTE="TerryD, post: 2791633, member: 3399"] Every top team is "lucky" its schedule "worked out for them". ND did beat Michigan, though. That game does count. ND also has beaten a total of four current Top 25 teams this season, more than anyone else. ND beat the Wolverines with its now backup QB and RB. Head to head counts, as much as Michigan fans and ND haters want it not to. You are trying real hard here to conjure up scenarios for ND not to be in the playoffs. If the Irish beat Southern Cal (and it is a dangerous game, the Trojans have lots of good players and it is a rivalry game), they are in the playoffs despite far out "what ifs" and other mental contortions. [/QUOTE]