2H start

[Cuse44]

Have to give credit to JB for 1-3-1 twist this yr but we started the 2nd have in 2-3 and G-town scored like 8 straight feeder high post between layups and jesse’s third foul. Not sure why JB stayed with it but changed the game.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Interesting tweet from during the 2nd half...

 

[NorSyr66]

Some interesting info from one of the post game articles...that Syracuse has allowed nearly a 15% increase in scoring to the opposition in the second half this year. They have held teams to 36.7% in the first half but have allowed 50.6 shooting in the 2nd half. Is the problem the half time adjustments by the opposing coaching staffs or that our players are running out of gas...or both!

 

[DoctorBombay]

Some interesting info from one of the post game articles...that Syracuse has allowed nearly a 15% increase in scoring to the opposition in the second half this year. They have held teams to 36.7% in the first half but have allowed 50.6 shooting in the 2nd half. Is the problem the half time adjustments by the opposing coaching staffs or that our players are running out of gas...or both!

Yes.

 

[CardiacCuse]

better defensive players are bench players. they dont play in the second half.

 

[rrlbees]

better defensive players are bench players. they dont play in the second half.

Did you know yesterday and for the season Joe has a better defensive rating in advanced stats than Sy? Although I agree Sy should have seen some mins in the 2nd half. I feel all 3 of our bench guys should play each half.

 

[djcon57]

Did you know yesterday and for the season Joe has a better defensive rating in advanced stats than Sy? Although I agree Sy should have seen some mins in the 2nd half. I feel all 3 of our bench guys should play each half.

Yep, that’s true.

Did you know Jimmy has the worst defensive boxplusminus for a Syracuse starter in at least the last 10 years?

 

[CardiacCuse]

Did you know yesterday and for the season Joe has a better defensive rating in advanced stats than Sy? Although I agree Sy should have seen some mins in the 2nd half. I feel all 3 of our bench guys should play each half.

no i didnt.

i think sy's stats are probably a little untrustable based on low usage.

but i think joe has been best player overall. hs not really a PG. would like to see sy and joe start and buddy on the bench

 

[Cuseball]

Yep, that’s true.

Did you know Jimmy has the worst defensive boxplusminus for a Syracuse starter in at least the last 10 years?

I didn’t know that but not shocked. He really is over matched defensively. He tries but is always reacting late and too slow to make up ground. It is really painful to watch. I really do think you need more minutes for Benny and Frank at Jimmy’s expense. It’s the only way to get better defensively from the forward spot. Heck 30 minutes each from Cole and Jimmy and 20 from Benny would give you a better long term defensive team.

Cuse!

 

[kcsu]

Did you know yesterday and for the season Joe has a better defensive rating in advanced stats than Sy? Although I agree Sy should have seen some mins in the 2nd half. I feel all 3 of our bench guys should play each half.

Which rating service?

 

[rrlbees]

Yep, that’s true.

Did you know Jimmy has the worst defensive boxplusminus for a Syracuse starter in at least the last 10 years?

I knew he was this year but had never gone backwards. I’m not sure comparing one year to another really works. Same season sure. We know those numbers are impacted by others on the court. This year except for Jesse everyone has a negative number. The last couple years I looked at everyone had a positive number. Is Joe a worse defensive player this year than his first two years for example? I don’t think so. I think it says something about the impact players have on each other when each season most everyone is either a positive or a negative.

 

[djcon57]

I knew he was this year but had never gone backwards. I’m not sure comparing one year to another really works. Same season sure. We know those numbers are impacted by others on the court. This year except for Jesse everyone has a negative number. The last couple years I looked at everyone had a positive number. Is Joe a worse defensive player this year than his first two years for example? I don’t think so. I think it says something about the impact players have on each other when each season most everyone is either a positive or a negative.

Yet the fact Jesse has a positive number blows your theory up. Stats are stats, its nice you don’t “think” so, but the numbers say otherwise.

some folks “thought“ certain players didn’t really help on defense last year. They’ve been proven wrong

 

[rrlbees]

Yet the fact Jesse has a positive number blows your theory up. Stats are stats, its nice you don’t “think” so, but the numbers say otherwise.

some folks “thought“ certain players didn’t really help on defense last year. They’ve been proven wrong

Jesse being a positive doesn’t blow everything up. There can be outliers. Maybe Jesse is just so good on defense it doesn’t matter who else is out there. You think ALL our players were good defenders the past few years now all of a sudden they are ALL, except Jesse, bad? Joe got worse? You know how this metric works. It matters who is on the court with you. And the metric itself is a comparison to an average player.

 

[RoatanCuse]

Some interesting info from one of the post game articles...that Syracuse has allowed nearly a 15% increase in scoring to the opposition in the second half this year. They have held teams to 36.7% in the first half but have allowed 50.6 shooting in the 2nd half. Is the problem the half time adjustments by the opposing coaching staffs or that our players are running out of gas...or both!

Our players should have run cross-country last summer to get into condition and develop stamina. not so much weight room. You can tell they’re foot-dead by the 30 minute mark.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Yep, that’s true.

Did you know Jimmy has the worst defensive boxplusminus for a Syracuse starter in at least the last 10 years?

I know just by watching.

 

[rrlbees]

I know just by watching.

Did you know by watching that Joe is a better defender than Sy? Or that Jimmy is our 3rd best offensive player behind Joe and Jesse?

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Did you know yesterday and for the season Joe has a better defensive rating in advanced stats than Sy? Although I agree Sy should have seen some mins in the 2nd half. I feel all 3 of our bench guys should play each half.

It shouldn’t be just joe or sy .. it should be sy or someone else sometimes as well

 

[Fly Rodder]

You think ALL our players were good defenders the past few years now all of a sudden they are ALL, except Jesse, bad? Joe got worse?

I don't think they were all good defenders last season. Going into this season, with players who came back, we knew this was going to be a poor defensive team. And it is. By a lot.