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[QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 4796106, member: 668"]
Hope springs eternal.

However, 8 seasons in, whether he gets to 6 or one more at 7, it's still a losing conference record, again.  In a conference mind you, that other than Clemson for the most part, has been very mediocre in nature.  Based on same, even going .500 isn't really that much of a feat.  What does it say for a coach who can't even whiff .500 in such a conference, let alone the fact that he is 24 games below it.  TWENTY FOUR!!!

In the end, whether he wins 6 or 7, he has shown who he is as a P5 level coach, as 8 seasons is plenty enough cross sample of his true colors from a pure coaching performance/results related matter.  I'm not sure why anyone really can/should expect much difference, if any, from the generally norm/standard that has been.  If the university is okay with living in that 18-42 reality, it's their decision no doubt.  But, they only have themselves to blame in regards to poor attendance, lost revenue, etc. as folks aren't going to pay or continue to pay for such a poor product.

IMO, it's this position, et al or at least a contributing factor, that will be detrimental for SU a decade or so from now when the GOR is near or at expiration.
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