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4 possible rule changes to speeden the game
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I am guessing the first three get adopted and the most radical one(running the clock after incompletions) doesn’t.
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1) A majority of fans think that the average length of a college football game is too long? Really?
2) I bet this is going to raise the probability that refs are going to make mistakes, which is going to mean more pi$$ed off fans. If they're going to speed up the game, they should add another official on the field.
2) I bet this is going to raise the probability that refs are going to make mistakes, which is going to mean more pi$$ed off fans. If they're going to speed up the game, they should add another official on the field.
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Yeah, agree that 3 of the changes being proposed will easily pass, but as others have alluded, I don't see the one where the clock runs after an incompletion does.
One change not being proposed, which is really peculiar IMO, is that of the 20 minute halftime. That is absurdly long, and it should easily move down to the old NFL one of 15 minutes. I think the current NFL 12 minute halftime is actually a bit short, and think the 15 minute break is really the sweet spot.
The NHL intermission of 18 minutes is too long to IMO, that should be 15 minutes as well.
One change not being proposed, which is really peculiar IMO, is that of the 20 minute halftime. That is absurdly long, and it should easily move down to the old NFL one of 15 minutes. I think the current NFL 12 minute halftime is actually a bit short, and think the 15 minute break is really the sweet spot.
The NHL intermission of 18 minutes is too long to IMO, that should be 15 minutes as well.
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Change #1: drastically reduce the number, and duration, of TV timeouts and ad breaks.
But that would reduce the revenue flowing to the networks, and thence to the conferences! Exactly. Part of the cancer that has transmogrified the game.
Any proposal to throw away actual game time/content (!) to accommodate the growth of ad content is a sign of deep, pervasive sickness.
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I agree that the 20-minute college halftime can be a bit tedious, but I assume its to accommodate the marching band halftime performance (which the NFL doesn't have).
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That's where college football makes all its money. Not going to happen, IMO.
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Speaking only for myself, yes, I think the games are taking too long to complete.
I go back to a time to the 1970s, and my memory is that games in those days would routinely end in 2 1/2 hours or so.
By 1996, the average length of a college game was 3 hours 1 minute.
In 2022, it was 3 hours 24 minutes. When we were playing fast and the other team was too, there were games that were close to 4 hours long pretty regularly.
We are not going back to 2 1/2 hour games. TV money is too important to the sport now and that is not going to change.
However, NFL games are currently on average about 3 hours and 2 minutes long. IMHO, that should be the goal.
I like the changes and hope they are all implemented. Even the clock not stopping on an incomplete pass except inside 2 minutes. They should get us close to the 3 hour mark.
Almost all the extra time is just dead time; I find myself regularly annoyed by all the dead time one has to wait through to actually watch a few plays. We need more action and less dead times. Let's get with the times and follow baseball's lead. Feature live action. Get rid of the worthless dead time. It will make the games more enjoyable, keep the crowds more engaged and lively and make the sport more like it used to be, when the live action was featured so much more prominently that today.
It's about time: College football steadily moving to a four-hour experience
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The only thing that is too long are the endless stoppages for network commercial breaks.
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Speaking only for myself, yes, I think the games are taking too long to complete.
I go back to a time to the 1970s, and my memory is that games in those days would routinely end in 2 1/2 hours or so.
By 1996, the average length of a college game was 3 hours 1 minute.
In 2022, it was 3 hours 24 minutes. When we were playing fast and the other team was too, there were games that were close to 4 hours long pretty regularly.
We are not going back to 2 1/2 hour games. TV money is too important to the sport now and that is not going to change.
However, NFL games are currently on average about 3 hours and 2 minutes long. IMHO, that should be the goal.
I like the changes and hope they are all implemented. Even the clock not stopping on an incomplete pass except inside 2 minutes. They should get us close to the 3 hour mark.
Almost all the extra time is just dead time; I find myself regularly annoyed by all the dead time one has to wait through to actually watch a few plays. We need more action and less dead times. Let's get with the times and follow baseball's lead. Feature live action. Get rid of the worthless dead time. It will make the games more enjoyable, keep the crowds more engaged and lively and make the sport more like it used to be, when the live action was featured so much more prominently that today.
It's about time: College football steadily moving to a four-hour experience
College football games are long and getting longer, outlasting any other professional or top-level college team sports experience. Even college baseball, the sport pilloried the most by critics for…www.jacksonville.com
Yes, we need more action. But how exactly does running the clock more give you more action? It was only a few years ago that the on the field TV timeout guy was holding up 2:40. Now they hold up 3:10. It is unacceptable.
American sports are infested with more and more dead time. I have been to a Euro League BBall game and an Italian league BBall game. They were over in under 1:45 while our college games routinely go over 2 hours. Let alone an NBA game which will go over 2:30 for an extra 8 mins or gametime.
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Sure, use data evidence to support your argument. Very wily.Speaking only for myself, yes, I think the games are taking too long to complete.
I go back to a time to the 1970s, and my memory is that games in those days would routinely end in 2 1/2 hours or so.
By 1996, the average length of a college game was 3 hours 1 minute.
In 2022, it was 3 hours 24 minutes. When we were playing fast and the other team was too, there were games that were close to 4 hours long pretty regularly.
We are not going back to 2 1/2 hour games. TV money is too important to the sport now and that is not going to change.
However, NFL games are currently on average about 3 hours and 2 minutes long. IMHO, that should be the goal.
I like the changes and hope they are all implemented. Even the clock not stopping on an incomplete pass except inside 2 minutes. They should get us close to the 3 hour mark.
Almost all the extra time is just dead time; I find myself regularly annoyed by all the dead time one has to wait through to actually watch a few plays. We need more action and less dead times. Let's get with the times and follow baseball's lead. Feature live action. Get rid of the worthless dead time. It will make the games more enjoyable, keep the crowds more engaged and lively and make the sport more like it used to be, when the live action was featured so much more prominently that today.
It's about time: College football steadily moving to a four-hour experience
College football games are long and getting longer, outlasting any other professional or top-level college team sports experience. Even college baseball, the sport pilloried the most by critics for…www.jacksonville.com
As long as this doesn't raise the risk for injuries or errors, I see how this could be a good thing.
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Running the clock more means more plays per minutes and shorter games.
Just like reducing the length/number of TV timeouts, which should also be considered and hopefully adopted.
The best part of the games is when a team makes a series of big plays and momentum changes and the crowd gets into and and it builds and builds.
The way games are set up now, it seems like the powers that be are trying as hard as they can to keep crowds quiet and bored.
It just isn't right.
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Besides networks wanting to cram in as much advertising as possible, the big difference now is that teams are throwing the ball way more and getting more first downs, both of which stop the clock
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This is what hooked me on soccer. No timeouts. Running time from beginning to end.
Every game, including pre-game and post-game, is over in less than 2 hours.
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It’s a perfectly cromulent word.
The rules for the most part have been the same on these timing plays of the game.. Its the other breaks that have increased.
no more consecutive TOs. It used to be a rule in Bball as well.. It also should get fixed.
NO more tv Timeouts in the last 5 min, Just 60 sec TOs by the teams or for injury.
Just make the clock rules easier and simpler.. No problem stopping the clock for a First down for those few secs it takes to set the chains. It actually makes the end of games better than the NFL version. Just be consistent. Reduce the game clock after its set for a first down or for an uncomplete pass and problem solved. Just like Bball does for after an offensive rebound the shot clock is reduced.
If we can run plays in less time after clock resets why cant we do it on live ball.
The problem isnt more plays its more dead time.
run a play clock keeps running 40 secs
run a first down stop clock, set chains and you get 25 secs
throw a play incomplete, mark the ball and 25 secs
throw a complete pass, clock keeps running 40 secs.
we got 25 sec clock for all sorts of resets, just make setting the chain the same..
honestly on an inc pass it takes 10+ secs to get the ball back and mark it. Its not like the offense isnt calling the play whole time thats happening.
so review how long it takes to pass and get the next play set, compared to running and just starting the play clock, its probably no more than 5 secs difference.
and still teams are just standing around at the line half the time.
no more consecutive TOs. It used to be a rule in Bball as well.. It also should get fixed.
NO more tv Timeouts in the last 5 min, Just 60 sec TOs by the teams or for injury.
Just make the clock rules easier and simpler.. No problem stopping the clock for a First down for those few secs it takes to set the chains. It actually makes the end of games better than the NFL version. Just be consistent. Reduce the game clock after its set for a first down or for an uncomplete pass and problem solved. Just like Bball does for after an offensive rebound the shot clock is reduced.
If we can run plays in less time after clock resets why cant we do it on live ball.
The problem isnt more plays its more dead time.
run a play clock keeps running 40 secs
run a first down stop clock, set chains and you get 25 secs
throw a play incomplete, mark the ball and 25 secs
throw a complete pass, clock keeps running 40 secs.
we got 25 sec clock for all sorts of resets, just make setting the chain the same..
honestly on an inc pass it takes 10+ secs to get the ball back and mark it. Its not like the offense isnt calling the play whole time thats happening.
so review how long it takes to pass and get the next play set, compared to running and just starting the play clock, its probably no more than 5 secs difference.
and still teams are just standing around at the line half the time.
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I have changed my opinion on that from a few years ago and am now heavily in favor of this change.
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I think the problem is more with the number and length of commercials than it is with the game play, personally.
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I think you're right, but that won't go away. Something has to pay for the tv money these conferences are getting.
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I'll never for the life of me understand why the end of soccer games has to be this super mysterious thing where nobody quite knows when its going to happen. Just stop the clock if there's an injury and run it down to zero.
