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[jncuse]

I trust you man.
You use logic in everything you say pretty much.
I just don’t get the uniminity that USC gets.
I just think their resume is ridliciously thin. To be seen as a lock.

They finished 2nd in the PAC-12 because they played a weaker conference schedule.
They didn’t beat any of the other PAC-12 teams in the field or bubble.
Arizona, UCLA, Arizona State the Trojans have gone 0-4 against them.

Their nonconference isn’t loaded either. I don’t get it.

I mean Syracuse’s schedule is MILES better.
We might have lost 7 games to Kansas, Virginia, North Carolina, Duke.

That is 7 of our 13 losses.
To teams that are 1/2 seeds.

I don’t get it. The more I research the more I see we should be in easy.
Even though our team isn’t that good.

I am taking shortcuts this week. I am just too tired from work to dive into things, so I appreciate that are willing to dive in there and expose others like you do.

 

[pearl31]

Between ND/Lville/Cuse, I think ND is the only one that gets in. Committee will give them a pass because of Colsen.

And I'd gag a bit, but ultimately be ok with it

again, as long as it's not lvlle getting in and not us

 

[Chris02M]

Between ND/Lville/Cuse, I think ND is the only one that gets in. Committee will give them a pass because of Colsen.

i think its more likely we all are left out than nd getting in over us, if nd didnt lose to indiana and ball state with colson there case would be much better

 

[nzm136]

For now ... Rhode Island must win tomorrow over Davidson.

Using the baseline assumption that if you are over 95% on the matrix you are clear (which has always been the case) this is where the bubble stands based on matrix rankings.

St. Mary's - 66% *
Arizona St - 42%
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Louisville - 39%
Syracuse - 22%
Oklahoma St - 17%
Middle Tennessee St 14%
Baylor 12%
Marquette 10%
Notre Dame 4%

** - Don't get too overwhelmed by the 66%. Mid majors around that % or higher have often been screwed, while I don't remember a P5 team valued by the matrix not get in. For example --
St. Bonaventure 85% in 2016.
St. Mary's 65% in 2016
San Diego St 56% in 2016
Colorado St 91% in 2015
Temple 89% in 2015

Point is -- when they have many P5 Schools to choose from its mid-major that tends to get locked out.

I'm pretty sure UL won't win a tight race against another P5 school.

 

[pearl31]

 

[MSOrange]

 

[20Plus]

ESPN and the Louisville fixation is just bizarre we are better than them in every category every single one and we beat them

Less quad four Wins
Better strength of schedule
Better strength of record
A better road record
More quad one wins
We beat them on their floor

 

[rhcuse]

after a complete scrub of my 36 at large choices, i have us safely in at #44 on my seed list(1 ahead of the last at large pending davidson result tomorrow)


seed list:
1- Virginia, Villanova, Kansas, Xavier or North Carolina
2- North Carolina or Xavier, Duke, Purdue, Cincinnati
3- Michigan, Tennessee, Auburn, Wichita St
4- Michigan St, West Virginia, Texas Tech, Arizona
5- Gonzaga, Clemson, Kentucky, Houston
6- Ohio State, Florida, Miami, Arkansas
7- Texas A+M, Tcu, Virginia Tech, Seton Hall
8- Missouri, Nevada, NC State, Providence
9-Rhode Island, Butler, Florida State,Kansas State
10-Saint Bonaventure, Creighton, Ucla, Texas
11-Alabama, Oklahoma, Usc, Syracuse, Oklahoma St*

first 4 out: Arizona State*,St Mary's, Middle Tennessee, Louisville
next 4 out: Notre Dame, Marquette, Baylor, Davidson


i always wait until all auto bids from lower conferences are done to rank those teams so those are on the list for tommorrow

i am going to sleep on asu vs osu for last spot as its really close in my current evaluation

You have 5 11-seeds

 

[Alsacs]

Good nonconference wins
Middle Tennessee-N
Vanderbilt-A

USC’s Pac-12 wins.
Washington State-H
Calfornia x2
Stanford-H
Colorado x2
Utah x2
Oregon x3
Oregon State x3

So just because you beat all your non-NCAA tournament teams in your conference your in?

They don’t have a single win against team solidly in the field.

What a joke if they even make it now.
The PAC-12 is rated as the 5th best conference by BPI and the RPI.
USC beat none of the top teams in that conference.
They should be out.

 

[Ryand877]

Good nonconference wins
Middle Tennessee-N
Vanderbilt-A

USC’s Pac-12 wins.
Washington State-H
Calfornia x2
Stanford-H
Colorado x2
Utah x2
Oregon x3
Oregon State x3

So just because you beat all your non-NCAA tournament teams in your conference your in?

They don’t have a single win against team solidly in the field.

What a joke if they even make it now.
The PAC-12 is rated as the 5th best conference by BPI and the RPI.
USC beat none of the top teams in that conference.
They should be out.

Based on the timing of that tweet from the head of the committee saying one team will be a Rhode Island fan tomorrow(now today), I have the sick feeling usc is in. Not saying they should be. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[Chris02M]

You have 5 11-seeds

6 actually, 2 play in games(last 4 at large bids),1 at large just above and 1 auto bid team

 

[djorange1989]

Good nonconference wins
Middle Tennessee-N
Vanderbilt-A

USC’s Pac-12 wins.
Washington State-H
Calfornia x2
Stanford-H
Colorado x2
Utah x2
Oregon x3
Oregon State x3

So just because you beat all your non-NCAA tournament teams in your conference your in?

They don’t have a single win against team solidly in the field.

What a joke if they even make it now.
The PAC-12 is rated as the 5th best conference by BPI and the RPI.
USC beat none of the top teams in that conference.
They should be out.

Yep their resume looks like Nebraska’s and Nebraska isn’t getting in

 

[pearl31]

 

[Chris02M]

update after sleeping on the last 3 slots , i have it Syracuse, St Marys and then Usc pending davidson

Arizona St, Oklahoma St , Louisville and Middle Tennessee are my first 4 out

 

[jdubs30]

I know the committee takes into account who's back and healthy (Colson i.e.) but do they take into account who's nursing injuries? They could say Syracuse doesn't get in because they have only 4 healthy players. Chewie, Sidibe have knee problems and Moyer is probably still having problems with the high ankle sprain. Is bad health taken into consideration?

No. If we get in, all of those players will still be nursing injuries. Bonzie Colson missed several games and is not back.

Also, we can't compare PC, BS or MM to Colson - different levels of talent. Colson was preseason ACC POY