A compliment for Roy Williams

[tommyharn]

I'm not sure why this board continues to take shots at Roy. For fans of a program that has also had a decent amount of talent but has truly underachieved a number of times in March, I just don't get it. Both Boeheim (married to the zone) and Williams (doesn't take timeouts, teams don't guard the three) have their detractors, but their numbers speak for themselves.

And Boeheim's 3-1 record against Roy means very little (aside from one of those being in the National Title Game) when you consider that in both '09 and '11, one more win in the NCAA tournament by Syracuse could have led to that record being even. Both times Carolina went on to spank the team that eliminated the Orangemen.

 

[KingOtis]

And Boeheim's 3-1 record against Roy means very little (aside from one of those being in the National Title Game) when you consider that in both '09 and '11, one more win in the NCAA tournament by Syracuse could have led to that record being even. Both times Carolina went on to spank the team that eliminated the Orangemen.

That doesn't mean anything. Williams is clueless against our zone.

 

[Oakland]

Well than a career winning percentage of .800 against elite competition with greater than 600 wins already as well as 2 national championships and 7 final four appearances must prove he can coach on gameday. Getting all that talent can pose a lot of internal problems as far as getting these premier high school bball players to buy into the system and lose the me me attitudes. Because you have a lot of talent doesn't necessarily mean you get handed the national championship. Just look at Ben Howland great recruiter but apparently can't get the players to play together.

According to my calculations, Ben took UCLA to 3 out 9 FFs, Roy has been to the FF 8 out of 24. Both 33%. And UNC clearly has had more talent than UCLA the last 9 yrs: heck, Ben gladly just picked up Roy's rejects - the Wear twins. Roy's second NC team had the #1 PG/SG/SF from their class, Tyler Hans..., and several other Micky Dees - maybe the most stacked team in the last 20 yrs, and they escaped with a close win against Villanova with the help of a traveling violation that is usually not called. I think Ben is a significantly better coach, but he has not managed personnel issues well at UCLA. Roy is very good at managing his programs. However, before I put consider him a great coach, I want to see him average 25 wins in a non-BCS league.

Back to the OP, I think Roy gets too much credit. Would be interesting to see how many of Roy's 4* star bigs (if there are any) made it to the NBA and compare that to other coaches.