So sorry, Joyce. I started to write something last night about tough lives, and how a lot of people on here have had a tough life lately, but then I decided not to post it. One poster referred to having a bad night. I was going to tell him what a bad night really is. We really need to be careful with what we say. We have had several ill members lately, or children of members. This board, and our games are often an escape from those things, so we do not need to see words thrown around that should not be used to describe a college game, player or coach.