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A NIL Collective for Basketball - It's a Shame Syracuse Doesn't Have One

When Orange United closed, I was informed by people within the Athletic department that felt they did NOT need a third party NIL collective and that rev share should cover all they need.

I was also told by those same people they felt all of division 1 would go that route.


At that time I told them I thought they were completely wrong and that they needed to fill the gap………
That is unbelievable. Talk about absolute head-in-the-sand cluelessness. This was last fall? The whole athletic department needs to be turned over and we need to hire savvy people who understand the landscape of modern college athletics.
 
Things have escalated so rapidly. The first year of NIL we paid two prominent basketball players $500 each to attend our tailgate on separate dates. They were genuinely appreciative and I still get occasional texts from them today. The second year we contracted with two others then Red changed practice time at the last minute and caused a conflict. Pete Corasiniti called me at the tailgate and said they had asked to leave practice a bit early to fulfill their obligation to me. He couldn’t allow it but we agreed to amend the contract and allow an abbreviated appearance as the tailgate was tearing down. The third year we had an agreement with one starter and one prominent reserve. They signed contracts, then apparently didn’t feel it was worth getting out of bed to make a 9 am commitment. Thankfully Orange United was involved and cancelled payment.

We had a $2500 offer out to a starter who tested the NBA waters and decided to return but he laughed at it and said he wouldn’t even answer a phone call for less that $10,000. Deal was for a one hour appearance with additional money offered for signed photos.
Had great experiences with a grass roots effort that included 120+ donors and raised $68k over three years but the market for men’s basketball and football players made it obsolete. I do feel for student athletes from other sports who still appreciate a modest stipend and a chance to interact with fans. But the priorities are clear. Modest level donors are being asked to fund revenue sharing while high rollers and corporate sponsors handle major NIL deals. Have to admit it does make some sense.
Good summary.

The thing that really stinks is that we changed our NIL focus to benefit mostly Olympic sport athletes, for whom $250 or $500 was still meaningful. It remains meaningful.

But with the NIL clearinghouse currently shut down for small donations, which was what we focused on, we couldn’t do this any longer. It is very sad and I hope rumors of changes to bring the small contributors back into the fold are true.

I think in addition to helping out football and men’s basketball players, there is a strong desire by many on the board to help SU athletes in other sports. We certainly saw this when the tailgate was working with Orange United.
 
Hahahahahaha and I hadn’t even had a gummie. Don’t know how I even did that lmao
I was debating whether to give you a like or not, because it was a really good point, but the math wasn't mathing. :p
 
When Orange United closed, I was informed by people within the Athletic department that felt they did NOT need a third party NIL collective and that rev share should cover all they need.

I was also told by those same people they felt all of division 1 would go that route.


At that time I told them I thought they were completely wrong and that they needed to fill the gap………
Yeah, I agree with you. Even Wildhack said last year that third-party NIL was needed to "supplement" revenue-share. I don't know what the long-term prospects for collectives are, but it would seem to be short-sighted for SU not to have a collective supporting sports beyond football.
 
Yeah, I agree with you. Even Wildhack said last year that third-party NIL was needed to "supplement" revenue-share. I don't know what the long-term prospects for collectives are, but it would seem to be short-sighted for SU not to have a collective supporting sports beyond football.
I think the issue that many are missing is that the $20.5MM in revenue sharing had to come from somewhere. SUAD needed to either find additional sources of revenue or cut costs. I can see the logic of trying to divert modest donations that may have been going to OUC or AwC to the Athletics Competitive Excellence Fund to help cover rev share but if that is the case I wish the messaging was a bit more transparent.
 
30 days .. ok then. Great chance to get early momentum announcing the full staff and then early portal wins to get another waive of enthusiasm. Look forward to those of us in the small to medium range of donations to getting our chance.
I heard we'll have real info out about the new collective towards the end of the week. A "collaborative, community collective". Big donors, medium and small.

This is the one I'm saving my dollars for
 
I'm half kidding, half serious when I say that at every game played in the Dome, regardless of the sport, we should have people stationed at all the gates with an orange Salvation Army-style bucket. Fans can toss in however much money they can.
Do it Catholic mass offering style with ushers passing baskets down the rows.
 
I heard we'll have real info out about the new collective towards the end of the week. A "collaborative, community collective". Big donors, medium and small.

This is the one I'm saving my dollars for
I've heard the same and wonder if we have the same source.
 
I heard we'll have real info out about the new collective towards the end of the week. A "collaborative, community collective". Big donors, medium and small.

This is the one I'm saving my dollars for
all sports too.

 

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