A positive take on SU & JB

[pulaski74]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jim-bo...why-should-anyone-be-surprised-042603860.html

That was a great article and spot on, Jim is a cny'er and doesn't give a crap what anyone thinks. I am the same way but unfortunetly moved to STL in 81. Love to -k w/ people here.

 

[creatorsgam]

FWIW, Francesa was on with Jay Wright yesterday and was very bullish on us beating Gonzaga and even on us beating Virginia or Iowa State.

***. Well, that was fun while it lasted. :bang:

This guy is clueless and never gets this stuff right. Or maybe I've read too much Mushnick to formulate my own opinion on the guy.

 

[Sgt Cuse]

"Boeheim has signed 19 McDonald's All-Americans through the years. Duke's Mike Krzyzewski has signed 65. North Carolina has brought in 70 under various coaches. John Calipari has recruited 25 since he took over Kentucky … in 2009."

That quote sums it up imo. JB is a darn good recruiter altho he probably is not the recruiter k, cal, self are. How can you expect him to be? But bottom line, when you look at those #s above and you look at JBs titles , etc vs Cals and Roys (Self too) titles, etc. its pretty clear to me JB overall knows what the heck hes doing...

I think you are mixing recruiter vs school. If you had put JB for forty at UK or KU the number of McD's would probably be similar. SU was a regional school for a long time, the McD's didn't come here. Hop's a good recruiter but you put him in at Sienna and he won't be getting McD's.
In the past JB would need to assess how a player would grow into a really good player with a couple of years of seasoning. He did that on a regular basis.

Another thing I think this shows is the recency bias. SU is finally hitting the big time. Pretty much half those McD's have been in the last 10 years. We're pretty much starting to average one a year now. And the NBA placement has also come from the more recent, higher level talent we are now able to bring in.

 

[orangenirvana]

It's because the nba is not college, only the best make it, all the guys you mentioned are good bb players but the nba is a whole 'nother thing. Message, stay in school.

While as an SU fan it would have been nice if they had stayed in school, they all made the right decision from a financial standpoint. Because if they had stayed in the program for another year, more of their flaws would have been exposed and their stock would have plummeted. The system is forcing the talented college players out before they should be leaving.

It's why I think NBA scouts and GM's are incredibly dumb.

 

[Moontan]

But rather, it's a top program because a skinny walk-on from Rochester was his teammate.

Lyons, actually... but it's a valid point.

 

[Cowtown]

Lyons, actually... but it's a valid point.

Right, I just looked at Google maps, I had thought it was like Greece or Irondequoit ...

 

[IthacaMatt]

I can't remember a season with greater player development than this one. Lydon, Frank Howard, and DC stand out with the most dramatic improvement arc this year, but G is also better late in the season, and the team has really gelled. Mali probably suffer from being so good in the middle of the schedule that his improvement is being overlooked too. I recall teams getting better throughout the year, with 1 or 2 guys really stepping up late, but never across the board like this. Really impressive season all around given the tourney success. The goodwill for recruiting, for these guys to stick around another year or 2, and to make the leap into the top 10 next year that comes from another week of prep and national exposure cannot be undervalued. Bullish baby!

Good post. Another team recently was the Jonny Flynn Sweet 16 team. They finally turned on the switch and started playing defense late in the season instead of just bitching about the zone, and we really improved after that.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

Thats the prime reason why we have a chance to beat Gonzag imo and possibly even win the next one...if TL, Mal , Frank continue improving, that gives us a real good shot...

Don't underestimate DC's improvement. If he can neutralize Gonzaga's bigs and stay out of foul trouble, play 20 minutes and get 6 rebs, we will probably win.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Don't underestimate DC's improvement. If he can neutralize Gonzaga's bigs and stay out of foul trouble, play 20 minutes and get 6 rebs, we will probably win.

Yes, he has been improving lately. I'm actually glad that he's back next year. He and Chukwu will make a solid center tandem, and allow the other guys to play their more natural positions.