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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4452010, member: 5685"] I think he has done a very good job for Wake, but I am not sure he is much different than Dino here. In 9 seasons he has had only one winning ACC record (just like Dino). He has also had pretty easy OOC schedules at Wake. Which wouldn't have been the case here. Take those away and his time at Wake is a lot like Dino minus 2020. And that is with Hartman. They have looked worse when he was out or before him. [/QUOTE]