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Message: [QUOTE="pfister1, post: 3597877, member: 285"] I think this is a different issue altogether. There is recruiting - convincing the players you want to come and play for you. Separately there is player evaluation- recognizing which kids will be successful and which may not. Both players (Carey and Goodine) were players that were highly sought after, in proportion to their rankings. So with them we were successful in recruiting the talent level we are trying to get back to, just not at the talent evaluation/system fit part of the equation. [/QUOTE]