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Message: [QUOTE="normaliswear, post: 875875, member: 1478"] Nobody is arguing that. But the ACC is just two years removed from its "Champion" giving up 70 to mighty West Virginia. At least as of today theres one school that can tell a recruit "We've beaten the best the SEC has and won a NC and we'll do it again with you." and not get laughed out of a kids house. Clemson winning over OSU just adds to that. Obviously it doesn't turn the tables completely by any stretch... but remember where this conf has come from just a couple years back... look at it now... and tell me it hasn't taken a big stride in perception. [/QUOTE]