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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 176413, member: 19"] Winning record against VT is a fairly meaningless stat. The schools have diverged quite a bit since those days and we're 2 coaches removed from the guy who had the winning record against them. As for Miami, we'll see what happens with their sanctions, but they have a very good coach, just had a very good recruiting year. Clemson in recent history hasn't been as good as they were this year and they still gave up 100 in their bowl game... to a team we beat. I don't think FSU is ever going to be Bowden's FSU again. Jury is still out on how good a coach they currently have. [/QUOTE]