ACC commish: Why not eight?

[Alsacs]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ohn-swofford-8-teams-college-football-playoff
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I mean this is the obvious end game. I am sure the CFB playoffs will expand and ESPN will have to pony up even more money for the privlege of televising these playoffs.

Easy solution 5 P5 conference champions get automatic bids with the understanding the Big XII will have a conference title game even if its with 10 teams. 3 at-large bids.

You play the first round the week after the conference title games in mid-December at the homefield of the top 4 teams.

4 winners play on New Year's Day in 2 of the 6 big bowls like now.

The Monday after the NFL regular season ends play the NC title game at whatever neutral site.

Boom roasted.

 

[orangepassion]

The 1st shot has been fired

 

[TheCusian]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ohn-swofford-8-teams-college-football-playoff http://espn.go.com/college-football...ohn-swofford-8-teams-college-football-playoff I mean this is the obvious end game. I am sure the CFB playoffs will expand and ESPN will have to pony up even more money for the privlege of televising these playoffs. Easy solution 5 P5 conference champions get automatic bids with the understanding the Big XII will have a conference title game even if its with 10 teams. 3 at-large bids. You play the first round the week after the conference title games in mid-December at the homefield of the top 4 teams. 4 winners play on New Year's Day in 2 of the 6 big bowls like now. The Monday after the NFL regular season ends play the NC title game at whatever neutral site. Boom roasted.

And the Presidents will loosen their objections when they see how much money is in play.

 

[Scooch]

"I do think it has a great deal of potential," Swofford said of the playoff. "The question is asked a lot, 'Why not eight?' or 'Will it become eight in a few years?' I can tell you why not eight, right now: The presidents made the decision as to how far we can go with the playoff, and the bookends are exams in December, and the presidents don't want football to become a two-semester sport. Those concerns are education-based. So I think they're appropriate"

:rolling:

Education based.

:rolling:

Syracuse hoops played a team that apparently is traveling like 10,000 miles in 10 days including making a trip to upstate NY, a cross-country trip to CA, and a trip to the Dakotas... from Georgia.

I'm sure those "student-athletes" will be immersed in their education while they log miles like George Clooney in 'Up in the Air'.

But we can't have two football teams playing 2 weeks into January! Education!

:rolling:

 

[NKR1978]

The dinosaurs running the B1G will be the biggest impediment to an 8 team playoff. The best case scenario is FSU, Oregon and 2 SEC teams. The Big 12 and B1G would probably freak out over not having a playoff spot and will want to make sure that they have a conference member taking part in what will become one of the biggest playoffs in sports in a very short time.

 

[Stern]

makes sense. Probably at least a decade or so away from actually happening. It's been a snails pace process to get to this point. Don't see it changing again anytime soon

 

[texascpa]

The dinosaurs running the B1G will be the biggest impediment to an 8 team playoff. The best case scenario is FSU, Oregon and 2 SEC teams. The Big 12 and B1G would probably freak out over not having a playoff spot and will want to make sure that they have a conference member taking part in what will become one of the biggest playoffs in sports in a very short time.

If OSU doesn't squeeze into the Top 4, then I can see the B1G changing their minds quickly.

I agree that 8 has always been the end game. I have a slightly different take on how it would be split up. I think it will the conference champ of each P5, the highest ranked (as selected by the committee) non-P5 school, and two at-large bids. If it goes to 8, I think the non-P5 schools will press the issue enough that the P5 schools will relent. P5 will not break away.

 

[Alsacs]

If OSU doesn't squeeze into the Top 4, then I can see the B1G changing their minds quickly.

I agree that 8 has always been the end game. I have a slightly different take on how it would be split up. I think it will the conference champ of each P5, the highest ranked (as selected by the committee) non-P5 school, and two at-large bids. If it goes to 8, I think the non-P5 schools will press the issue enough that the P5 schools will relent. P5 will not break away.

I don't think you can guarantee one slot to a non-P5 school. This year the committee hasn't even put 1 G5 school in its top 25. Marshall at 10-0 isn't a top 25 and 7-3 Clemson is still a top 25 team. I think with 8 teams a G5 school could realistically get in if they were worthy, but you couldn't promise them a slot.

 

[orangecuse]

Obviously, having a 4 team playoff is better than the farce BCS champion, but it's still a joke. If an unranked Texas A&M team can go into Auburn and knock off the number 2-3 team, Ole Miss knocking off Alabama, etc., whose to say a 6, 7, 8th ranked team couldn't knock out any of the top 4 on any given day. That's why you play the game...let the champion earn it on the field, not by subjective voting, etc. In my view, 8 should've been the bare minimum now, I think 16-20 would be the best...give the top 2-4 ranked teams a first round bye, etc. depending on the total number of teams in it. The current set up indulgently appeases the P5, their relationships with the Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange Bowls and controlling the $$$...Just my $.02.

 

[Full_Rebar]

I think the CFB will also allow each P5 autonomy to determine their champion in whatever manner they see fit. 8 also allows them to sell a better opportunity to non-P5 teams to make the playoff. It would be highly unlikely for an undefeated non P5 to do enough to make the top 4.

 

[shantydaze]

I like the idea of eight teams and an autobid for conference champions. This should force ND into a conference

If OSU doesn't squeeze into the Top 4, then I can see the B1G changing their minds quickly.

I agree that 8 has always been the end game. I have a slightly different take on how it would be split up. I think it will the conference champ of each P5, the highest ranked (as selected by the committee) non-P5 school, and two at-large bids. If it goes to 8, I think the non-P5 schools will press the issue enough that the P5 schools will relent. P5 will not break away.

I like this approach. While the non-P5 might not "deserve" to be in the playoffs, if provides a Cinderella team that makes the basketball tournament exciting. Also, guaranteeing a slot to P5 conference champions may have two results. First, schools could look to schedule more interesting OOC games against other P5 schools as a loss does not automatically knock the loser out of the playoffs. Second, it should force ND to get off the fence and join the ACC. The autoberth would also make the CCG games more exciting and meaningful as both teams would be playing for something as opposed to only one team playing for a berth.

Some have suggested that the first round games be played at the home fields of the higher seeds. I love this idea as it will make the easier for fans to make it to games. Also (even more important to me), I would love to see the SEC teams potentially have to play an outside game in December against a northern team. I have always believed that playing most of the bowls within a short driving distance from campus has benefited the SEC.

 

[Toga]

How might this impact (if at all) Notre Dame going all in as far as full conference membership?

 

[KaiserUEO]

How might this impact (if at all) Notre Dame going all in as far as full conference membership?

it will help them, provided that they can still maintain their strength of schedule.

P8 means you are letting teams in who dont win or maybe even play in a champ game.

now, their seeding will likely never be higher than a 6, which could get annoying down the road, but i dont think this would move them.

confs going to 9 games and not having room on the sched for them in oct/nov would be the bigger impetis to join the ACC.

 

[Alsacs]

it will help them, provided that they can still maintain their strength of schedule.

P8 means you are letting teams in who dont win or maybe even play in a champ game.

now, their seeding will likely never be higher than a 6, which could get annoying down the road, but i dont think this would move them.

confs going to 9 games and not having room on the sched for them in oct/nov would be the bigger impetis to join the ACC.

ND will never join a conference unless the rules expressly make them. In an 8 team playoff they could make one of the 3 at-large bids. The confs going to 9 games won't effect ND as they got Arizona State and Northwestern to play them in November.

 

[JimBoston]

I think the main reason Swofford will lead the charge to an 8 team playoff with each P5 champions guaranteed a spot is to guarantee ACC inclusion. If you look back at the last 10 years, the ACC would have been the conference left in almost all of the years except last year..

 

[KaiserUEO]

ND will never join a conference unless the rules expressly make them. In an 8 team playoff they could make one of the 3 at-large bids. The confs going to 9 games won't effect ND as they got Arizona State and Northwestern to play them in November.

well, the b1g goes to 9 games in '16.

the squeeze is coming...

 

[Alsacs]

well, the b1g goes to 9 games in '16.

the squeeze is coming...

I understand but teams will play ND if ND will play them home/home.

5 ACC games, Navy, USC, Stanford the Irish can find 4 games from the SEC/B1G/P12/B12/G5.

The ACC has an agreement if ND joins any conference it will be the ACC, but I don't see them joining unless they decide something drastic.

8 team playoff just helps teams like Syracuse/Northwestern/Arizona/West Virginia as if all they had to do to automatically for the playoffs would be to have a magically year and win their conference for an automatic berth. The SEC would get its 2 teams a year minimum and everyone wins.

The Irish only care about themselves they use whatever concubines they can for their own benefit.

 

[Toga]

I understand but teams will play ND if ND will play them home/home.

5 ACC games, Navy, USC, Stanford the Irish can find 4 games from the SEC/B1G/P12/B12/G5.

The ACC has an agreement if ND joins any conference it will be the ACC, but I don't see them joining unless they decide something drastic.

8 team playoff just helps teams like Syracuse/Northwestern/Arizona/West Virginia as if all they had to do to automatically for the playoffs would be to have a magically year and win their conference for an automatic berth. The SEC would get its 2 teams a year minimum and everyone wins.

The Irish only care about themselves they use whatever concubines they can for their own benefit.

Jesus - they have concubines too??

 

[Stern]

In my view, 8 should've been the bare minimum now, I think 16-20 would be the best...give the top 2-4 ranked teams a first round bye, etc. depending on the total number of teams in it.

16-20!? LOL...why even play the regular season at that point. The regular season will be so devalued at that point it will be very bad for the health of the sport

 

[Chip]

Sounds like someone thinks UNC is going to beat Duke tonight.

Which leaves FSU playing GT, with one week to prepare for the triple option.

8 teams, and that game would be meaningless. 4 teams, FSU wins or they're out.

 

[donniesyracuse]

it will help them, provided that they can still maintain their strength of schedule.

P8 means you are letting teams in who dont win or maybe even play in a champ game.

now, their seeding will likely never be higher than a 6, which could get annoying down the road, but i dont think this would move them.

confs going to 9 games and not having room on the sched for them in oct/nov would be the bigger impetis to join the ACC.

The five conference champions wouldn't necessarily be the Top 5 seeds. An at-large team could theoretically get a top seed, just like they do in the basketball tournament.

 

[lionf96]

I would like to see an 8 team playoff that works like this.

• Each P5 team that wins their conference gets an automatic bid (as long as they don't have more than 3 loses. The # of losses can be debatable).
• If a P5 conference winner loses more than 3 games, that P5 bid becomes an at-large bid
• One bid automatically goes to a non-P5 conference team
• Two at-large bids

I would also like to see another mandatory P5 non-conference game that is rotated every year.

 

[shantydaze]

Sounds like someone thinks UNC is going to beat Duke tonight.

Which leaves FSU playing GT, with one week to prepare for the triple option.

8 teams, and that game would be meaningless. 4 teams, FSU wins or they're out.

The game would not be meaningless if the P5 champions had an automatic berth in the play-offs. It would be even more meaningful as both GTech and FSU would both be playing for the autobid as opposed to the game only being meaningful for FSU's playoff hopes.

 

[KaiserUEO]

The five conference champions wouldn't necessarily be the Top 5 seeds. An at-large team could theoretically get a top seed, just like they do in the basketball tournament.

thats why i said 'likely'.

in a P8 system, if an anomolly like a gatech or dook beats a fla st, then yeah, they arent getting a top4 or 5 spot, unless they somehow are 'protected'.

but winning the conf champ game, should get you an auto-bid in a P8 scenario.

 

[donniesyracuse]

but winning the conf champ game, should get you an auto-bid in a P8 scenario.

right, but not necessarily a top-5 seed. An independent Notre Dame could still get the top seed. The committee would likely determine the three at-larges and the seeding 1-8.