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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 1013884, member: 96"] You keep wanting to hang your hat on 3 championships in bball to try to prove worth to the ACC and as proof of a national brand and following. You fail. The most important things are/were; in no particular order. Football Brand Location Ties to ND National fan base I don't see you on TV taking over arenas or showing up in good numbers at far away football games. You show up for the occasional "event". He'll, even BC brought more fans to the Dome than you ever did. Where are your fans in the mid Atlantic? The south? California? Texas? They're all in New England. [/QUOTE]