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Message: [QUOTE="orange79, post: 4262061, member: 159"] No. Not the 3 at once. Don't be dense. The "Syracuse took itself out by talking up the BE. BC got it by default." garbage. Totally false. We were there. We were told we would be there by the ACC powers. Trust me on this one. Then the Virginia state government got involved. Fredo got nothing "by default". They begged, pleaded, cajoled, cried, and otherwise humiliated themselves to get the bid, all the while swearing to the BE they were there for the long run. Please don't try to sell us revisionist history. We know exactly what happened. We've lived it for 20 years. And posters on this site who are in a position to know, know. [/QUOTE]