Are you kidding me. The entire east coast and its millions of viewers left out i think not
we are not talking about big east games we are talking about acc games
But if the entire NorthEast has no school at the Big Boy table interest in the sport as a whole in the region will drop. If fans in the area can't dream of their team being on the same field then they aren't even really playing the same sport. Now compared to the rest of the country college football isn't as big in the NorthEast anyway, but its still significant just by the sheer number of people.Same response. SEC games outdraw ACC games.
You'll never understand any of this unless you understand that the SEC is successful because its games outdraw the others.
You are way overstating the regional propensity to watch local games versus "National" games.
But if the entire NorthEast has no school at the Big Boy table interest in the sport as a whole in the region will drop. If fans in the area can't dream of their team being on the same field then they aren't even really playing the same sport. Now compared to the rest of the country college football isn't as big in the NorthEast anyway, but its still significant just by the sheer number of people.
If ND did go to the Big 10 and we see 4 Super Conferences (with the ACC left out and schools looking for new homes), college football will go the way of NASCAR! Southern/Mid-Western based sport with the Northeastern part of the country ignored.Sad thing is that Penn State and Notre Dame could carry the Northeast on their own.
If ND goes to the B1G, the ACC is flucked...
Sad thing is that Penn State and Notre Dame could carry the Northeast on their own.
If ND goes to the B1G, the ACC is flucked...
If ND did go to the Big 10 and we see 4 Super Conferences (with the ACC left out and schools looking for new homes), college football will go the way of NASCAR! Southern/Mid-Western based sport with the Northeastern part of the country ignored.
Now, I don't think this will happen, but IF it did College Football would be following the NASCAR model.
I didn't suggest anything of the sort. I just said the sport would be southern and mid-western based. With no real presence in the Northeast.Please. Easterners would continue to do what they do today in large numbers ... watch the SEC, Big Ten and games like Army-Navy.
You seem to be suggesting there are big Eastern audiences for Eastern teams. If that were true, we wouldn't be having this conversation and the BE wouldn't have such relatively poor contract.
If SU is on, I don't watch Big East teams, I watch the best game on and usually that's the SEC.
You're missing a key understanding. Its not about rooting for a team... it's simply having teams around involved in the sport helping fans appreciate what a great team/game is when they see it. Sure there will be fans who continue to watch, but it WILL dwindle. As kids grow up without ever seeing teams they know of or can go see on the big stage their interests will shift to sports where that is possible. English Premier league soccer has its fans who are really into the sport, but with no teams involved here most kids can't name a team in that league. Your thinking is too short term.I know you won't believe this, but just about everything you just wrote is wrong. It's wrong because you think that a significant part of the Northeast roots for local schools and identifies with them. They don't. Instead they watch whatever the best games are and usually that's the SEC or the Big Ten. Just like the rest of the country.
Northeast TV viewers in general don't really care about the schools in the geography because other than Penn State none have them ave been part of the College football top tier for decades. Interest in college football won't drop enough to matter if people can't find Temple or BC or UConn or Rutgers or even SU on the dial.
You're missing a key understanding. Its not about rooting for a team... it's simply having teams around involved in the sport helping fans appreciate what a great team/game is when they see it. Sure there will be fans who continue to watch, but it WILL dwindle. As kids grow up without ever seeing teams they know of or can go see on the big stage their interests will shift to sports where that is possible. English Premier league soccer has its fans who are really into the sport, but with no teams involved here most kids can't name a team in that league. Your thinking is too short term.
You're comparing apples and oranges. I'm talking interest in college football as a whole, not specific conferences. I live in Rochester, right between Buffalo and Syracuse. Both cities have Div 1 football programs. However, in Syracuse interest in college football, believe it or not, is far FAR greater than in Buffalo. Why? Because despite their struggles Syracuse's Div 1 program has had a seat in an AQ conference. Syracuse sees its team on ESPN playing against WVU, ND, USC etc and people have conversations about how to try and build to that level. UB isn't in a AQ conference and noone has delusions they ever would be. So people there only care about college football at the local level. Most couldn't even tell you who was in the BSC Championship game last year. The sport as a whole is meaningless. And its not because Buffalo has pro sports, plenty of pro sports towns care about college too... if they have a team at the big boy table.Q. Why have Big East games tended to gravitate to being shown on weeknights and not Saturday afternoons?
A. They can't compete for a TV audience even in the Northeast.
I grew up 18 miles from Rutgers. No one I knew ever went to a Rutgers game in any sport.
You're comparing apples and oranges. I'm talking interest in college football as a whole, not specific conferences. I live in Rochester, right between Buffalo and Syracuse. Both cities have Div 1 football programs. However, in Syracuse interest in college football, believe it or not, is far FAR greater than in Buffalo. Why? Because despite their struggles Syracuse's Div 1 program has had a seat in an AQ conference. Syracuse sees its team on ESPN playing against WVU, ND, USC etc and people have conversations about how to try and build to that level. UB isn't in a AQ conference and noone has delusions they ever would be. So people there only care about college football at the local level. Most couldn't even tell you who was in the BSC Championship game last year. The sport as a whole is meaningless. And its not because Buffalo has pro sports, plenty of pro sports towns care about college too... if they have a team at the big boy table.
You kind of prove my point there. The interest in SU football in the immediate area around Syracuse is rooted in many years of watching and rooting including some era when SU was very good. Yes and if there are no teams around to ever hope to be very good again that interest wanes some. Not sure why you're stuck on the TV contract, thats not relevant to the issue being discussed. We're talking relative interest levels dropping. Whatever current interest levels are in college football in the NorthEast is X... I'm simply saying that removing the NorthEast entirely from big boy competition turns that interest level to X - 10%, 20%, 50%... theres no way to know the exact impact unless it happens. But to believe there would not be a significant drop in the interest in college football on the whole in that scenerio is naive at best. Not every fan watches sports the same way or for the same reasons as you so projecting your own inclinations towards watching college football onto all fans across the region leads you to make incorrect assumptions.I lived in Rochester twice. And the interest in SU football I saw when I lived there was weak at best.
The interest in SU football in the immediate area around Syracuse is rooted in many years of watching and rooting including some era when SU was very good.
But all the interest there is in SU football in the immediate area hardly moves the meter. Even though it is greater than that in the Buffalo area in UB.
Ask yourself these questions.
Why is the Big East football TV contract worth significantly less than the major conference?
Why are Big East games being shown on weeknights, including Fridays, and not on Saturday afternoons?
Same response. SEC games outdraw ACC games.
You'll never understand any of this unless you understand that the SEC is successful because its games outdraw the others.
You are way overstating the regional propensity to watch local games versus "National" games.