ACC tiebreakers

[OrangeBear]

Anyone know the exact rules for ACC tiebreakers when it comes to regular season title? Does the ACC share the title in case of a tie or are their tiebreakers to have a single champion. I think Cuse is clearly the best team in the ACC but our schedule is the toughest amongst teams in contention for the ACC title. Assuming @Duke, @Pitt and maybe @UVA are losses and UVA and Pitt end up with three conf losses as well, I wonder who gets the ACC crown in a three way tie?

 

[jdubs30]

We have the hardest schedule but we have the best team. Pitt or UVA are probably more likely to trip up on the road vs. a middle of the pack team than we are.

 

[jncuse]

There is no regular season acc champ. Somebody linked it the other day. While most conferences recognize a regular season and tourney champ, the acc only recognizes a tourney champ.

So the answer is no tiebreaker.

 

[TDTOrange]

There is no regular season acc champ. Somebody linked it the other day. While most conferences recognize a regular season and tourney champ, the acc only recognizes a tourney champ.

So the answer is no tiebreaker.

Right, but it doesn't mean that the schools can't claim a regular season title. Anyone who finishes with the best record in the league will hang a banner. But also, there has to be some tiebreaker to settle the seedings in the ACC tournament.

 

[OrangeYaGladi]

Right, but it doesn't mean that the schools can't claim a regular season title. Anyone who finishes with the best record in the league will hang a banner. But also, there has to be some tiebreaker to settle the seedings in the ACC tournament.

Nope, according to the first guy, everyone gets the same seed in the ACC tournament. It's pretty chaotic, and leads to some teams playing 3 first round games -- but it's worth it.

 

[TDTOrange]

Nope, according to the first guy, everyone gets the same seed in the ACC tournament. It's pretty chaotic, and leads to some teams playing 3 first round games -- but it's worth it.

Royal Rumble!

 

[jncuse]

Nope, according to the first guy, everyone gets the same seed in the ACC tournament. It's pretty chaotic, and leads to some teams playing 3 first round games -- but it's worth it.

Yep it's easy to come up with smart-ass replies when you claim people said things they did not.

The question was:

What are tiebreaker for acc crown?

Not

What are tiebreaker for tourney seeding?

Of course there are tiebreakers for seeds. But that was not the fn question.

 

[tbonezone]

according to the helsinki rules coaches are blindfolded and then face dean smith in a dodgeball elimination .

 

[OrangeYaGladi]

Yep it's easy to come up with smart-ass replies when you claim people said things they did not.

The question was:

What are tiebreaker for acc crown?

Not

What are tiebreaker for tourney seeding?

Of course there are tiebreakers for seeds. But that was not the fn question.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

There are regular season champions, they just aren't really acknowledged as such with anything like a trophy/title I believe. After 1961 the winner of the conference is merely the winner of the conference tournament, giving that team the NCAA guaranteed berth. We could get the most wins in conference play and it really wouldn't matter if we don't win the tournament.

 

[OrangeBear]

I consider the #1 seed to be the regular season champ. So what are the tie breakers to get the #1 seed in case we have a three way tie something with UVA and Pitt?

 

[Cuse315Pat]

I consider the #1 seed to be the regular season champ. So what are the tie breakers to get the #1 seed in case we have a three way tie something with UVA and Pitt?

Probably the same way it is in all the other conferences. We only play UVA once so if we lose to them and go 1 and 1 with Pitt, it will come down to Pitt vs UVA, who also play once.

But let's say Cuse beat UVA and Pitt does, and we go 1 and 1 with Pitt, and we end up with say 2 losses each in conference play. Then I have no idea. They might just see who the other loss in league play is to, and decide if one is worse than the other. Like say we lose to Pitt and Duke, and Pitt ends up losing to BC and us, they might think the BC loss gives us the #1 seed.

 

[CaptainJ]

In the ACC after 1961, the regular season title has become like the Queen of England, something to be admired but having no official power. The seeding is another concern separately.

 

[Toga]

If Duke ties that means they are regular season champs. Duh.

 

[Hoo's That]

Probably the same way it is in all the other conferences. We only play UVA once so if we lose to them and go 1 and 1 with Pitt, it will come down to Pitt vs UVA, who also play once.

But let's say Cuse beat UVA and Pitt does, and we go 1 and 1 with Pitt, and we end up with say 2 losses each in conference play. Then I have no idea. They might just see who the other loss in league play is to, and decide if one is worse than the other. Like say we lose to Pitt and Duke, and Pitt ends up losing to BC and us, they might think the BC loss gives us the #1 seed.

Head-to-head is always the first tiebreaker in the ACC, even when 3 teams are involved. According to this blog, the next tiebreaker is record against the next best team not involved in the tie, working down the standings until there's a difference. So, in your example, If UVa was third, because you both won one game against us you'd go to your records against the fourth place team, let's say Duke, etc., down the line until one falls out.

http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/12707/taking-a-look-at-acc-tiebreakers/

 

[Madbiker]

There are regular season champions, they just aren't really acknowledged as such with anything like a trophy/title I believe. After 1961 the winner of the conference is merely the winner of the conference tournament, giving that team the NCAA guaranteed berth. We could get the most wins in conference play and it really wouldn't matter if we don't win the tournament.

It matters to the NCAAT committee and their seed placements. That's all that matters.

 

[Knicks411]

We have the hardest schedule but we have the best team. Pitt or UVA are probably more likely to trip up on the road vs. a middle of the pack team than we are.

The schedule differences from here on out are pretty stark.
I think it will be tough for us to win the league if we don't win at Pitt or at UVa.

 

[cto]

Right, but it doesn't mean that the schools can't claim a regular season title. Anyone who finishes with the best record in the league will hang a banner. But also, there has to be some tiebreaker to settle the seedings in the ACC tournament.

There is historical precedent for hanging such a banner in the ACC. In 1999, Duke lost the NC game to UConn. However, Duke hung a banner proclaiming they were regular season national champions by virtue of their number one ranking right before the NCAA tourney.

 

[Jack Hall]

There is historical precedent for hanging such a banner. In 1999, Duke lost the NC game to UConn. However, Duke hung a banner proclaiming they were regular season national champions by virtue of their number one ranking prior to the NCAA tourney.

biggest collections of dorks alive, narrowly over mit

 

[obliterata]

In 1999, Duke lost the NC game to UConn. However, Duke hung a banner proclaiming they were regular season national champions by virtue of their number one ranking right before the NCAA tourney.

Wow, that's unbelievable. They should be put on probation for a year for not recognizing THE National Champion of 1999 and told to take the banner down.

 

[zeekay]

During Miami game on TV they showed their "ACC Regular Season Champions" banner hanging next to their "ACC Tournament Champions" banner as they were talking about their previous season. So it definitely exists in ACC.