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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 3559552, member: 237"] One thing about the 4/5 comment. 2017 should have been a bowl season. Brutal schedule but also brutal outcomes in close games we absolutely could have won. Should haves don't help anyone's reputation and are not why people keep jobs but it really should have been a bowl year. Just like 2018 probably should have been an 8-4/7-5 bowl year. Bad breaks/good breaks in those years play a big role in the body of work we are looking at. [/QUOTE]