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Message: [QUOTE="nzm136, post: 3638509, member: 2531"] Posts talking about Babers’ “strong” support are odd in a thread where hardcore fans are questioning whether he should be our coach, and in a forum where there have been numerous threads about former players and/or parents of players questioning his coaching, posters questioning whether there would be a mass exodus, posters questioning whether the team quit on him, posters questioning whether he quit on the team, and so on. It’s like the claims that he represents the university well. I’m not sure how that’s quantified. He hasn’t gotten busted for cheating, gotten in bar fights, or been found with coeds - sure. But he’s lost a lot of football games and said a bunch of things that sound really, really dumb, or, in the right (wrong?) context, egocentric. Talking about “belief without evidence” while getting pounded to a 1-10 record in year 5 due to “out lifting the freshmen” isn’t helping the university’s image in my eyes. Letting players carry out crazy in-game antics doesn’t enhance the university in my eyes. Letting 18-22 year old kids make very strong political statements on national TV that can’t be taken back or gracefully mitigated later in life is a phenomenally problematic public lack of judgement that will likely hurt the university’s image in my eyes. These are kids who lost the power to choose their uniform on senior day because they couldn’t get that decision right... He’s our coach, and he will be our coach next year. Assuming he gets 6 wins, which I think he probably will, then he’ll be our coach the year after next. We should all hope he does well. But the man has obvious weaknesses that have clearly manifested themselves in our abysmal record. The mental gymnastics that certain posters make to try to distort reality and rewrite history in an effort to defend DB from genuine (and often obvious and otherwise uncontroversial criticism) are bizarre. [/QUOTE]

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